• ripcord@lemmy.world
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    You’re actually the first person I’ve ever seen who was explicitly pro-“woke”.

    Probably we agree on the majority of things, not disparaging it. But I’ve only ever, EVER heard the phrase in the context of right-wing Americans describing anything or anyone that they disagreed with or were told not to like. Like how “lib’ral” became a hate word for a bunch of people in the 90s. Well, or people who were using it to make fun of those people. Kind of like CRT.

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      7 days ago

      That might be because it originated in the black community and was only becoming widespread in the white community when it was highjacked by the right wing and tried to turn it into a slur.

      It isn’t and continues to not be a slur. Especially for anyone who understands what it means.

      Conservatives use a shorthand like “woke” because they can’t outright say “being kind and respectful to others while reflecting on the mistakes of the past is a bad thing.”

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      I am pro-woke and aspire to be woke, but I’m also woke enough to know that I probably have blind spots that I’m not even aware of, despite my best efforts. I also live in a blue state and in a socially blue area.

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      It seems an apt wording choice, imho, however it was originally intended. Having seen and experienced it with my own eyes & ears, I now cannot go back to the way I was before where I believed what others said about it. It is like how women experience things that men refuse to acknowledge - “no, surely Chad would not do that, you simply must have imagined it, little missy - please don’t spread such nasty lies about my friend like that”, but whether we are women or men or whatever, we can LISTEN to those who experience it FIRST-hand and therefore KNOW what it is like. Or, hide out in the bushes (with permission) and watch - it’s not that hard to do these experiments and truly see what’s going on, if only we are open to them. Not blindly trusting, you see? Nor blind acceptance of any old story either, but open to being convinced by actual facts as to whatever they may teach us.

      Also, regardless of what bullies may see, these words have actual defined meanings - e.g. read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke. So I guess I am a flaming liberal b/c:

      Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

      As opposed to a conservative:

      Traditionalist conservatism, often known as classical conservatism, is a political and social philosophy that emphasizes the importance of transcendent moral principles, manifested through certain posited natural laws to which it is claimed society should adhere.

      since regardless of my personal beliefs, especially religious, I also believe in separation of church vs. state, or more importantly that Jesus/God Himself gave us that freedom to choose and told us to leave others the fuck alone (“Judge not lest ye be judged”), and also btw we are commanded to judge ourselves (“Judge ye by the fruit” - you know, of the vine?), so like judging the world but not ourselves (for a conservative this would be the likes of Trump and religious leaders etc.) is the precise opposite of the Biblical commands (which again, to be crystal clear, is to judge ourselves but not others).

      And likewise I am woke:

      Woke is a political slang adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination.[1] Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights.

      So if you also are aware that these things are happening, and like, care about it, then you are too. Whether you want to advertise that fact locally where you are is another matter:-P. (Also, nuances are allowed to exist, e.g. Dave Chappelle is super-woke about everything except the T in the alphabet.)

      Thank you for coming to my TED talk:-D.