The hottest political issue European politicians aren’t talking about
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The Continent’s housing crisis has gone from being a slow burn to a four-alarm fire — but some countries are handling it better than others.

The Continent’s housing crisis has gone from being a slow burn to a four-alarm fire — but some countries are handling it better than others.

One of Europe’s long-simmering political frustrations is suddenly boiling over.

From Lisbon to Łódź, voters are angry about the lack of affordable housing. Anti-immigrant riots broke out in Dublin last fall, fueled in part by claims that the Irish capital’s limited public housing was being given to foreigners. Meanwhile, in cities like Lisbon, Amsterdam and Milan, thousands of protesters have taken to the streets to denounce the lack of affordable homes.

In a poll ahead of last week’s far-right surge in the European Parliament election, the Continent’s mayors listed housing as one of the most important issues facing their constituencies.

  • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    5 months ago

    There isnt a ton sitting empty. Dome need to be empty obviously for people to move in and out and for renovation. But even that isn’t enough to satisfy demand.

    Your plan is more housing restriction and let me guess the awful idea that is tent control? Neither of these prevent the issue of lack of supply. Thats where the solution lies.

    Of course governments need to enforce building standards. Things like public transport and density.

    But at the moment the government is the one stopping more housing, especially higher density. If you allowed business to build more houses they would.

    • dandi8@fedia.io
      1·
      5 months ago

      About 10% of homes in the US are considered vacant, 5.5% in UK, 18% in Europe. 0.02% of the US population is homeless, I believe it’s 0.006% in UK, 0.07-0.33% in European countries.

      Yet your solution is still to make housing even less comfortable for poor people by getting rid of density laws and blame immigrants for the housing prices, to boot.

      • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        I think you will find some of the most high density housing in the world is very expensive. What are you even on about. Land is expensive. You think detached housing is the cheapest way to build houses? You’re out if your mind. Supply and demand. Locals could live in the houses if other people weren’t coming in and buying them. How many immigrants are living in these countries? Why dont you compare that to vacant housing? The vacant housing is only a big issue in undesirable locations and you need some anyway. Like I said LVT is the way forward. Solves this problem.

        • dandi8@fedia.io
          12·
          5 months ago

          No one ever claimed detached housing is the cheapest form of housing… Way to build a strawman.

          • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            5 months ago

            You’re talking about keeping density low as a means to keep house prices low. It’s stupid.

            • dandi8@fedia.io
              12·
              5 months ago

              No, you’re claiming that that’s what I’m talking about.

              What I’m saying is that making density even higher is not the solution to the housing problem. There are other, better ways of making houses more affordable than forcing people to live elbow-to-elbow with their neighbors.

              • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                5 months ago

                What are you proposing then. Shoulder to shoulder includes everything that isn’t detached.

                How would less dense housing be cheaper when you need to buy more land and land is the thing that is expensive? Never mind things like utilities, public transport, police etc.

                • dandi8@fedia.io
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  Some ideas could include, but are not limited to:

                  • ban companies from buying housing properties
                  • introduce a fairly high tax on every second (or at least third, progressively higher with each) property to deter buying up properties to rent
                  • perhaps introduce another tax on properties which have been vacant for X months/years
                  • introduce rent control
                  • perhaps even introduce some form house price control (per square meter, tied to median wage, perhaps)
                  • make the government build some housing

                  You can debate how well each of these would work, but there are many ways to bring prices down without making it less pleasant to live in those houses. I’m most partial to a progressive property tax, rent control and government housing, myself.

                  • Wanderer@lemm.eeEnglish
                    1·
                    5 months ago

                    You really need to look into why those things are bad ideas because they seen like good ideas until you actually more than superficially look at them.

                    Especially rent control it is an awful, awful idea and leads to bad outcomes for everyone. But people refuse to learn about it and think it’s a good idea. Go look up some YouTube videos on what’s wrong with rent control. That will have comparisons to a lot of other things.

                    The problem is there isn’t enough housing. Stop housing from being rented doesn’t make more housing, it will actually make less.

                    The only actual good idea on that list is government building. But the issue governments have is the exact same issues as what companies have. Laws and NIMBY stop people from redeveloping areas that people live in or near. There just isn’t any more land to build on that’s available and with governments forcing population to increase and how everyone wants to live in big cities the issues gets worse and worst.

                    The solution lies in building more housing, nothing else. If there isn’t enough housing literally nothing makes more housing than building more housing or converting no other solution works.