• BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    We should just nationalize the schools and their funding,

    Yes… through increasing taxes.

    ridding us of thousands of inefficient and expensive local and regional administrations

    I’m really not sure how you imagine making that work. Maybe you’re just not all that familiar with what local government does? Because it’s usually a lot. For very little pay.

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      Basing these takes on a book I read about schools a few years ago. The Smartest Kids in the World. Some of it may be outdated or misremembered, but the clear one was how inefficient it is to have this many school districts in America. Overall cost of adminstration has gone up while teacher pay has stagnated.

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        Gotcha. I misunderstood a bit and thought you were talking about your local council or government representatives vs people like your District Superintendent.

        It’s been a while since I’ve taken a look at a local school district’s organizational chart so I used the one here.

        FWIW I pulled up a 2011 study that shows consolidation of most school districts has already been done to the point of maximum efficiency. It’s also extremely detrimental to poor and impoverished districts.

        Research also suggests that impoverished regions in particular often benefit from smaller schools and districts, and they can suffer irreversible damage if consolidation occurs. For these reasons, decisions to deconsolidate or consolidate districts are best made on a case-by-case basis. While state-level consolidation proposals may serve a public relations purpose in times of crisis, they are unlikely to be a reliable way to obtain substantive fiscal or educational improvement.

        https://nepc.colorado.edu/publication/consolidation-schools-districts

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          Maybe their management shouldn’t be consolidated but their funding absolutely should be, into a single country-wide fund. The districts should then be paid an equal amount on a per-student basis.

          You might say that this doesn’t account for differences in the cost of living between different areas. I say that it’s all the better that it doesn’t, because if the funding is set such that it is sufficient to fund education in the most expensive areas (and it will be because these areas have the most political power), the relatively increased funding will allow the poorer areas to catch up.

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            4 months ago

            That feels closer to what I was hoping to articulate. We shouldn’t be relying on the largesse of the voting homeowner class to fund our schools at a patchwork of levels, we should be dropping aircraft carrier money into schools and creating the most informed electorate in history.

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          4 months ago

          I’m receptive to that. I’m the definition of a layperson, having read one “popular” book on the subject so I only have vague general notions a layer or so deeper than a completely naive person. In any case the main things I feel strongly about are paying teachers more (and paying very well qualified ones very well), giving them the leeway to dictate what they teach and how, and treating students as if they were innocent civilians deserving of respect and support, rather than… How we treat them now.