A BBC investigation reveals that Microsoft is permanently banning Palestinians in the U.S. and other countries who use Skype to call relatives in Gaza.

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          You can have more than one dumb pipe to push bits through, but if the ISP can read your network traffic then you have bigger problems than a single-point-of-failure.

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          For the most part the ISP doesn’t have a way to know you are using VoIP to contact people in a particular country (unless you are using a VoIP service owned by the ISP of course).

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        Threema is what signal should have been.

        But I ain’t got in me to start forcing people again lol

        Signal it is until it is proven untrustworthy

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          Yeah, they’re both good (still).

          features Threema Signal
          price $5 / 5€ Free
          account creation phone number optional phone number required
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        They didn’t fuck up, they made a design choice about the scope of the app. Are they also fucking up by not blurring the messages on screen? After all someone could be looking over your shoulder without you realizing it. Maybe Signal should ship with spyglasses.

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          You’re absolutely right and it’s insane I keep coming across these wild takes from people that clearly don’t understand technology

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          I’m not sure why you think anyone would want a messenger that touts itself for its encryption to not encrypt things.

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              Then it’s weird they are fixing it now. Why aren’t they insisting this doesn’t need to be dealt with because it was a feature, not a bug?

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                It’s weird that apps sometimes change scope and add features that users want? Ones that contributers already did most of the work for?

                Why aren’t they insisting this doesn’t need to be dealt with because it was a feature, not a bug?

                That was literally what they have been saying this whole fucking time.

                “The database key was never intended to be a secret. At-rest encryption is not something that Signal Desktop is currently trying to provide or has ever claimed to provide,” responded the Signal employee.

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                  Did they make an intentional design choice which users should have been okay with like you said the first time or is this a feature users wanted? It can’t be both.

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                It’s really fucking annoying how relentlessly you pick fights with people these days. Wish you’d chill out dude.

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                  Or I’m just speaking my mind and you don’t agree.

                  And aren’t you picking as fight with me right now?

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                    You are right to bringing up this issue and it is pretty fucking big deal inho mistakes happen but signal “leadership” has made series of questionable choice which don’t quite align with the user base.

                    Other person is down playing it hard too. Hard to tell why as he is not really providing any good reason besides trying to “explain” it away

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                    Not picking a fight; don’t really care what you have to say in response. Just needed to share my observation that you are latching onto people in a really aggressive manner in multiple threads as of late. If that doesn’t bother you then go ahead and disregard.

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          That wouldn’t shock me, but he was right that Signal was not addressing a known vulnerability. In fact, denying that it even was a vulnerability.

          For what it’s worth, I trust Telegram even less than Signal. And at least Signal seems to be finally doing something about the problem.

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        Damn that’s bad, and Signal’s response was even worse. They knew about it in 2018, for 6 years.

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          I always felt like signal is there more to satisfy a niche so people feel like their whatsapp is good enough.

          Leadership makes some odd chocies IMHO