• TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    4 months ago

    The other side of his comment is that he is willing to be pulled into a physical struggle over being labeled a gender.

    What a weakass anti-philosopher / anti-therapist.

    Patient: “Doctor, I feel like my coworkers are labeling me … what should I do ?”

    Dr Peterson: “Have you considered beating them to death ?”

    what a fucking loon

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      4 months ago

      Peterson is a moron, but I also don’t like the word cis. If people are allowed to be called what they want to be, then if they want to be called straight, that should be fine

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        But that’s a different thing than cis. Straight is to whom you’re attracted, cis is who you are.

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          I don’t really get the distinction. Either way, if I say I identity as a straight white male, that should be sufficient enough for everyone to understand and move on.

          I afford the same courtesy to all my LGBT brothers and sisters. I call you as you wish to be addressed.

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            Well, not getting the distinction is pretty important. People can’t discuss an issue without both understanding the definition of terms, or we’d just be speaking different languages to each other.

            Cis and trans are both Latin prefixes.

            Trans- is a Latin prefix meaning “across”, “beyond”, or “on the other side of”.

            Cis- The prefix “cis-” comes from the Latin meaning “on this side,” as opposed to “trans-” which means “on the other side of” or “beyond.”

            So all cisgender means is not transgender. Or transgender means not cisgender. Neither are insults that should offend, and if one does, it might be a viewpoint thing.

            You are, presumably, a homo sapiens sapiens. We don’t use that term generally, and just call you human. However, both are correct labels, and they aren’t insults. If there were homo neanderthalensis around still, the distinction may come up in conversation for various reasons, and that’s when it’d be necessary to have the different labels.

            Straight or gay/bi/lesbian/pan/ace/demi etc are all talking about something completely different, which is your sexual orientation. Calling you straight when we’re discussing whether you are cis or trans would be like calling you lotion or something when talking about your species. Lotion isn’t a species, so it’s pointless to the conversation, and just plain wrong.

            You could of course request to be called lotion, but it’s a confusing title if someone was discussing your species, especially medically, in socially (as in social issues or norms for your species), issues that pertain to your species, medication, etc.

            Now, here is where I might be skirting close to accusing you of something, but if possible, please just think deeply about it. Why is CIS unacceptable but straight acceptable? Is it possible that CIS makes you not feel “normal” as a label, while straight does?

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            4 months ago

            A women which transitions to male can also be a straight white male, but they are not cis.

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            4 months ago

            Calling someone cis basically just mean that they are not trans. Generally speaking a straight white male may or may not be cis.

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            I believe the above point is that cisgender (cissexual) is a term for one who identifies as their birth sex, as opposed to transgender.

            It’s not defining of your attractions and isn’t an opposite of “straight”.