Because idealistic posturing is for children and getting someone to eat less meat is more helpful than creating an atmosphere where vegans/vegetarians have to spend time apologizing for the loud minority.
I’d have to disagree. Calling out unethical and hypocritical dietary choices shouldn’t be frowned upon. Sure, calling someone names isn’t the ideal way, but there’s only so much giving in to cognitive dissonance one can endure before you’re frustrated enough to call someone a carnie (which is basically not an insult if you ask me). It’s obviously striking a chord if they’re offended and getting them to think about their life choices.
I’ve heard from many vegans who have only changed their ways when exposed to the very blunt ways of vegancirclejerk, so there is definitely some merit to it. At least online where there are a lot of babies around. It’s a different thing when in person.
Mountains don’t grow in a day. We don’t feel the ground shifting under us.
I would argue the majority of people react to sharp critique by closing themselves off. I know plenty of people that started by reducing their meat intake to a few meals a week. That kind of conversion is the most likely to get results.
My non-negotiable medicines were developed while utilizing animals as test subjects. I own pets and I will not entertain the idea that needs to change. I’d rather avoid the confusion in naming and not debate what qualifies as vegan.
Well, as far as practicable. Medicine is exempt as far as most vegans are concerned, having pets isn’t inherently non-vegan either. Shouldn’t be much of a debate
Because idealistic posturing is for children and getting someone to eat less meat is more helpful than creating an atmosphere where vegans/vegetarians have to spend time apologizing for the loud minority.
I’d have to disagree. Calling out unethical and hypocritical dietary choices shouldn’t be frowned upon. Sure, calling someone names isn’t the ideal way, but there’s only so much giving in to cognitive dissonance one can endure before you’re frustrated enough to call someone a carnie (which is basically not an insult if you ask me). It’s obviously striking a chord if they’re offended and getting them to think about their life choices.
I’ve heard from many vegans who have only changed their ways when exposed to the very blunt ways of vegancirclejerk, so there is definitely some merit to it. At least online where there are a lot of babies around. It’s a different thing when in person.
Mountains don’t grow in a day. We don’t feel the ground shifting under us.
I would argue the majority of people react to sharp critique by closing themselves off. I know plenty of people that started by reducing their meat intake to a few meals a week. That kind of conversion is the most likely to get results.
Different strokes for different people I guess and everything I present is anecdotal at best. Whatever gets results is gucci in my books
What’s the reason you’re “only” vegetarian? Just curious to know
My non-negotiable medicines were developed while utilizing animals as test subjects. I own pets and I will not entertain the idea that needs to change. I’d rather avoid the confusion in naming and not debate what qualifies as vegan.
Well, as far as practicable. Medicine is exempt as far as most vegans are concerned, having pets isn’t inherently non-vegan either. Shouldn’t be much of a debate
Carnist and proud, you should listen to your friend