• Donkter@lemmy.world
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    The GOP has also successfully gaslit their base into believing the two best things for unions are controlling immigration and “tax cuts”.

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          Strict immigration controls. Workers have the best leverage for negotiations when there are no alternative sources of labor for corporations to scab with, and what group makes a better scab than disorganized, desperate, immigrants who probably lack the qualifications (education, experience, language) to enter a proper union?

          Make no mistake, no one wants mass immigration more than the owner class.

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            That seems to make sense until you think about the additional growth in demand required to avoid industry shutdowns that is almost solely down to immigration, since the US birth rate is like 1.8 per woman.

            Multinationals are happy to move the jobs to Mexico or Vietnam or China; they don’t need to employ immigrants in the US to lower labor costs.

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            Immigrant labor is actually cheaper when immigration is tightly controlled, at least it is in the US where “restricted” really just means more illegal immigrants rather than fewer overall. When you let people in legally, they’re documented, unions can actually reach out to them, and they are protected by things like minimum wage.

            Illegal immigrants are not.

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              Something like 70% of “illegals” in the US are illegally here for less than half the year. It’s agricultural workers who just don’t go home when the season ends.

              These people do nothing to harm the 7% of private employees who are already in unions.

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              I’m talking about the best interests of existing union workers.

              Have you spoken to many on-the-ground union workers?

              When you let people in legally, they’re documented, unions can actually reach out to them, and they are protected by things like minimum wage.

              This is exactly what those people are opposed to. They want their Unions to be exclusive with a small labor pool. Less workers + good Union support = more money per worker. There are obviously some exceptions.

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                Fewer legal immigrants doesn’t mean fewer workers, it just means fewer people being paid above board. That extra money doesn’t go to union members, it goes to stock buybacks and CEO packages. The more of a company’s workforce is part of the union, the stronger the union’s negotiating position, and THAT’S how unions get more money for their members.