• Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden’s withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
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    You guys realize that Biden waited until after the RNC to announce this right? He’s making this as hard as possible for them to pivot. You had hundreds of people in the same city, building strategies for their campaign. He had made sure that Kamala would have the delegates secured to ensure there would be no in-fighting for the next candidate. They did little to stop the media in going down the rabbit hole of the all-consuming news that he should drop out. They used it for their advantage to create a positive whirl wind around Kamala. Truly brilliant.

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      At the time it was frustrating, but in hindsight this was all clearly orchestrated. A brilliant move by the Democrats and an incredible act of patriotism by President Biden. His legacy is secured in perpetuity.

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        Only great people give up power willingly. Huge props to Biden. I didn’t want him to quit because I always knew he was a good president and a good man.

        Hopefully the next candidate will be able to take down Trump.

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      Nice thought exercise but in reality an old man got COVID and was finally convinced that he was a losing gambit.

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        That’s not what happened. He had a run of bad luck over a couple of weeks, including getting covid, and then some major donors said they would withdraw support.

        I mean he still gets the credit for doing the right thing. He could’ve hung in there until the bitter end… but it’s always about the money.

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      I like this idea.

      It’s certainly true that if Biden was planning to withdraw then after the republican convention and before the dems was certainly the correct time to do it.

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      I believe it was a mistake to pull out this late in the game and think its probably giving Trump the win but seeing how mad republicans get is almost worth it.

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        I don’t really understand how it’s too late?

        4 months feels like a perfect amount of time to woo the populace - enough time to see and hear her without getting weary of her.

        What advantages would they have had by switching Kamala in a month or two ago ?

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        I believe it was a mistake to pull out this late in the game and think its probably giving Trump the win

        Kamala polls better than Biden in match-ups against trump among every age group except boomers whose kids are trying to get them to surrender their car-keys.

        That said, I expect it’s all rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. Turn out among dem voters will probably be lower than in 2020 because that’s what happens when instead of doing what your voters want, you end covid protections, facilitate a genocide, and beat them up for protesting that genocide.

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    Biden is now a man with nothing to lose and a supreme court that said presidents can do any damn thing they please

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      I would love him to do such extreme things they have no choice but to retract the rulings and put in further protections.

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        Executive order to club the kneecaps of the supreme judges. Every Monday morning.

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        Like fire the few unqualified corrupt shitheads that were appointed by a felon rapist traitor? Judges appointed by traitors that follow Putin’s will should no longer be judges. It’s a matter of national security.

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        They don’t have to retract the ruling, they specifically said the supreme court can still revoke what the president does. So only trump is allowed whatever he wants.

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    Why would you come with a campaign tweaked against a specific opponent and not with a program that is the best for the majority of the citizen? Politics is really stupid especially in 2024!

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      Yep. It’s no longer about the policies or what we can do to improve the country and protect it.

      It’s all about framing and mudslinging and nothing more. Just look at the absolute insane level of astroturfing and bot spam over the last few days throwing absolutely everything at the wall to discredit and drum up hate against Harris.

      All it is is a campaign to rile up right wingers to hate someone else. It’s literally nothing more than this, there’s no actual value to any of it it is the opposite of valuable to this country.

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      Here I was thinking it was a mistake for the Dems to have pushed Biden this far into the year.

      It was certainly not on purpose, but it became a trap for the Reps. They played the Ad hominem card hard and it’s blowing up on their face. And it doesn’t help most of their attacks on Biden can now only be directed toward Trump.

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    This is starting to look like an effective strategy for the Democrats to drain Republican funds: don’t announce your actual candidate until August.

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      Spot on. For once (not really, but this doesn’t happen as often as it needs to) the Democrats are outsmarting their opponents. Let’s make this the norm. All of us working together towards a common sense future.

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    Calling it now.

    They’ll say it’s a conspiracy and Biden is running things behind the scenes as head of the deep state, Kamala is just a puppet

    He’s gonna be the forever bogeyman.

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      So many strings to keep track of!

      Biden is controlling Harris! Obama is controlling Biden! Soros is controlling Obama! Satan is controlling Soros! God is controlling Satan… Wait…

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    They’re upset. So? They’re always upset. Make them more upset by voting Democrat in the upcoming election.

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    GOP: “Your candidate is unfit for office.”

    Dems: “Okay, we got a new candidate.”

    GOP: shocked pikachu

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        They’re going to, probably in every single red state.

        They’re going to throw so much shit at the wall due to election ballot timing that unfortunately I think something will stick… it more than likely wont be legitimate, but we have way too many corrupt judges out there :(

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              Except other states could use that as a case to federally disqualify a candidate. “Well they weren’t on the ballot in all the states, can this be said to be a representative vote?”

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                Ironically, this is where the SC’s ruling to keep Trump on the ballot can be helpful. Because as long as the proper paperwork is filed in time, the committee can nominate whoever it wants, and the state doesn’t have the power to disqualify someone.

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            It’s a good thing we had no chance of winning those states then lol.

            If they did, it might actually drive up voter enthusiasm around the country. So I could see it backfiring spectacularly.

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            Ehh not like deep red states would ever swing towards the Dems anyways. So fuck em

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          I don’t think it’s a given that something will stick in a way that actually throws a wrench in the election. It would have to be in a swing state, the judge would have to be willing to become infamous around the world, and willing to ignore the precedent that generally political parties can choose candidates how they want and of course a nominee can decline the nomination.

          Oh fuck, Aileen Cannon exists…

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        They aren’t going to sue. They are going to start shooting. They’ve outright stated that. It’s crystal clear: they’ve said that the revolution would be “bloodless” only if the left “allowed” it to be. I really wanted to live long enough to build a family,.

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          You missed what Johnson said this morning. He says it’s “unlawful” in some states. (Which is not true in the slightest and they know it)

          How much you want to bet that this only will be “unlawful” in red governmental shithole states

          He’s basically giving a dog whistle to maggot judges to hold the line for the fascist party’s interest if these “challenges” come to them.

          Edit: fixed for feels being hurt / jimmies rustled

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              The only nice thing about those red shitholes is that it’s stupidly easy to get a gun. Get one. Join your local chapter of the SRA. Train at the local range at least twice a month so that you are proficient with it. Learn all the local stand your ground laws. Memorize them. When they start shooting, aim center mass.

              While a pistol is far more portable, it requires far more training, as the lower mass of the firearm results in a larger than expected kick. Shotguns are really the weapon of choice for urban defense.

              I personally have a couple of extremely nice sniper crossbows, that are basically silent. Seriously, the bolt impacting my target makes more noise than the bow. A couple of T-33s, an AA-12, and a 30-06. Lots of ammo too.

              Learning how to reload your ammo is also invaluable, should they start shooting. Have a “riot shield,” basically the largest piece of steel you can easily carry that is more than 2" thick. Body armor is also a useful investment.

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                A 1 square foot, 2 inch steel plate is 81lbs. Ain’t nobody carrying armor like that.

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                  Carry isn’t the right word here. I have one that is 12 sq feet, it is “mobile” in that it has wheels and a stand. I can barely move the thing around, but it is certainly bulletproof. I e tested it against AP rounds. Yes the thing weighs about half a ton.

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                I find it turns my stomach at the thought of training at a gun range with people who would rather shoot me in the head than tell me the time of day. That’s the kind of gun fetishists who live in the area I’m at.

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                  Not that I’m advocating for training with intent cause there’s far too much gun violence as it is, but if you are in a gun range and training to use a gun, the wack jobs are all going to assume you are one of them. They really believe that liberals are scared of guns and wouldn’t dare to own one. Much less train to use one.

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                  Carry isn’t the right word here. I have a 6’ x 2’ x 2" piece of steel that I mounted on a stand and wheels. It’s technically mobile in that I can move the thing with effort. It is bulletproof though. I have tested it against AP rounds.

                  I don’t take it with me on protests, it sits in my house in one of the most defensable positions in the house.

                  Yeah the thing weighs about half a ton.

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            Can we try not to talk like Trump? No state as a whole is a shit hole full of shit hole people, those kinds of statements reek of elitism and it’s not a good look.

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        They’re just trying to rile up their base that this is “cheating” so that they come out to vote in outrage

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          They’re ginning up arguments about “cheating” in case they lose. Trump has never admitted to losing an election, always claiming the winner cheated. And as we saw on Jan 6, it really riles up the dirtbags that form Trump’s unique voter constituency.

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    Incidentally, there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They’ll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.

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      Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be “Biden can’t appoint Harris! I didn’t vote for her!” which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.

      They didn’t want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don’t want the person most of the party supports to run either.

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        Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.

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          You’re telling me someone would just go on the internet an lie?

          It’s a massive social hub with influence on all the worlds information. What possible motivation could someone have try to influence people by faking accounts and make bad faith arguments?

          Sorry, it just doesn’t add up. Now, you’ve interrupted me hitting myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer and this brain damageisnthgomr e

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        The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we’ve made it!

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        I’ve seen iterations of “the Democrats stabbed Biden in the back!” too many times on here over the past 24 hours for it to be a coincidence

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        displays a total lack of knowledge

        Well we are talking about right wingers here, kinda par for the course. :P

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      You know what I’m not seeing?

      ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

      ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

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        You know my history regarding Biden. Go on, check my history since Biden did the right thing and dropped out. I’m still posting and not so much as an unkind word about Harris. Biden did the right thing. The party did the right thing. I’m overjoyed that for the first fucking time in far too goddamned long, Democrats listened instead of digging in their heels and demanding votes, every pore reeking of entitled paternalist condescension.

        You were wrong. Your shitty candidate bowed out like you didn’t want him to, and just look. The party has very much gotten in line behind Kamala. The predicted chaos and infighting hasn’t happened. She’s had the best fundraising in US history simply by being the understudy who was present at the time and not being Biden.

        The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent

        Have you considered that it’s because they’re finally satisfied? At least for now? Harris is a reasonable compromise candidate. Biden wasn’t, and he listened to reason and bowed out. We’re better for it.

        a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

        Democrats are a big tent. Some of us don’t like genocide. Some of us don’t like cops. Some of us don’t like either. Harris is in a better position to distance herself from past actions than Biden was about ongoing actions.

        She ran on full cannabis legalization in 2020 and was a sponsor of the Justice in Policing Act of 2020. It ain’t gonna stick.

        I’m glad Biden dropped out.

        Are you?

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          Have you considered that most if not all people were supporting Biden because they were doing what they could to save democracy? That maybe they weren’t voting for Biden, but against Trump?

          Of course you have. I’ve seen people actually tell you this first-hand- only for you to rewrite their shit and spit it back out as something entirely different. Because that’s what you do.

          You see, the rest of us are wiling to do whatever it takes to save those who WILL be hurt by Trump should he get elected. We’re not entitled and arrogant enough to think we have the luxury to not vote.

          But that’s because we’re mature adults that understand that merely asking for something isn’t all it takes to get it. We also understand that sometimes, the choices suck, and the lesser of two evils is all you have- and that not doing something isn’t an option when you’re wanting the opposite result of nothing to happen.

          Grow up.

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            Have you considered that most if not all people were supporting Biden because they were doing what they could to save democracy?

            Now that he’s dropped out and the party has enthusiastically lined up behind a better candidate, it’s clear that their insistence on an octogenarian genocide supporter ran contrary to that goal, and that everyone who called for Biden to step down was absolutely right.

            I’m glad Biden did the right thing. You wanted him to stay in and lose.

            You see, the rest of us are wiling to do whatever it takes to save those who WILL be hurt by Trump should he get elected.

            Except call for the guy who was losing to him to step the fuck aside. Now that he has, we’re more likely to beat Trump. You would have preferred to lose with Bidenyahu.

            But that’s because we’re mature adults that understand that merely asking for something isn’t all it takes to get it.

            We got what we wanted by asking. Your shit candidate stepped down and we now have a candidate who can beat Trump. Now get in line and vote blue no matter who.

            Oh yeah, and you’re doing a shit job of ignoring me.

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        ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

        Really? I’ve seen plenty of posts like that. Stuff like “Donated to the democratic party to show this was necessary”, “Finally, we can safely roast Trump for being old and senile”, “I don’t care who the replacement is, thank god he’s out”.

        There are some shit-stirrers, but they seem to be the minority.

        Disclaimer: I am not American, cannot vote or donate, am heavily invested in the election due to the ramifications on Ukraine.

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          Can you link me to them?

          You don’t, like, have to, but I am genuinely curious. I haven’t seen that and I am wondering if there is some segment of Lemmy that I am missing.

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            Just look around this comment section, and other comment sections in !news@lemmy.world and !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

            As I said, there’s the occasional commenter that is trying to throw shit at the democratic party generally, but by and large the majority of comments are in favour of this, and if you click through to individual users it’s not hard to find users that were hoping that Biden would drop out a week ago.

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        I’m happy AF.

        Biden’s legacy is secure. He can rest easy as the man who beat back the right-wing fascist autocracy and led the country to elect the first female president. 🤞

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          Even though I agree with you I would suggest not pushing the first woman president angle. There’s already plenty of dumbasses saying that she shouldn’t be elected because she’s a woman, including 2 of my women coworkers. One is a republican and the other a Democrat, both boomers too.

          Let’s just push the competent angle.

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        Wasn’t rabid before, but I was one of those for Biden stepping down in favor of Kamala. I just wanted a strong voice that was capable of at least countering Trump’s endless spew of lies. But I have noticed those that are now bashing Kamala were also telling people not to vote for Biden.

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        They’re waiting on the next talking points from their Russian overlords. Give it a day or so and they’ll be back with some new, yet all the same, arguments.

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        I am one of those accounts who wanted Biden to step aside. Not because I dislike him but because he was going to lose. Now I have hope. I’ve been smiling since Saturday afternoon.

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        a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

        I mean, in both cases people are entitled to their honest opinions. I’m going to vote for her, but I’m not happy about it. Not being happy about her her career pre-whitehouse seems fairly reasonable to me.

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          “People are entitled to their honest opinions” - but that wasn’t what was happening - a bunch of rightwingers posting as leftwingers were spending a lot of time trying to convince democrats not to vote. They had paragraphs to say about why Biden was terrible but could never find the same level of detail or ire about Trump, whereas someone who was genuinely leftwing would have a lot more to say about Trump than Biden by way of criticism.

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            Ah right OK, I’ve seen those folks. I think I was reading the tone of the discussion as general frustration with anyone who was dissenting.

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        Yeah, they can’t take two seconds to enjoy the victory they wanted. They have to move on to the next thing to bitch and moan about.

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            Several others are not. Including a person who has been posting anti-Biden articles in this community for months, who has now switched to anti-Harris articles.

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            Exactly.

            It’s quite insidious.

            Today I’m suddenly seeing a lot of “vote blue no matter who”, which IMO is intended to stifle enthusiasm for Kamala.

            If the left could unite behind a candidate we’d destroy the GOP.

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            Pretty much. That way when Trump won, they could say “see? We told you so!”

            Much more important than them or people they might care about getting marched into camps.

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                You already told me in another post that you’re not celebrating this and have moved on to Harris.

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                bomb em Biden

                • Takes too long to even figure out
                • Not really all that punchy
                • “Genocide Joe” is already perfectly serviceable without these drawbacks
                • Dude… he’s out of the race now. Why you are even trying out new ways to dunk on Joe at this point is beyond me. Unless you were just excited that you thought of it and wanted to have a chance to apply it before the moment is past even though the moment is, at this point, past

                3/10. It’s not, like, a total failure, but there are multiple reasons just not even to use it. Can I recommend “cacklin’ Kamala” instead, as a replacement?

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                  I really liked Genocidin Biden but he turned around and started dropping air packets and at least tried with the pier.

                  I think he should have driven aid trucks in with one us soldier per truck and said “Dare you.”, but I understand the high risk for loss of life.

                  He did a lot of good and even worked with the railroad union after he shut down their strike and earned my respect back from that one.

                  He is either in the shadow years of his life or he has just lost the ability to not seem that way in public.

                  The man has earned his retirement and now it is our job to try and get her elected.

                  That sending Israel everything and protecting their asses after what they have done.

                  A response was required, they unleashed hell on civilians and he continued to support them.

                  She probably will too, but maybe not.

                  While I would love someone way more on the “single provder” and new housing, those are long term changes

                  They listened and now it’s our turn to have their backs.

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          They never thought it would happen. They shot themselves in both feet with shotguns. Now they’re in panic mode because they’re realizing they’re really fucked now.

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          Remember the end of season 1 of “Arcane”, where everything looks like maybe it’s gonna be okay, and then you get to see in slow motion how an unexpected spasm of violence undoes anything good that might have been building, and you know everything’s gonna be bad, bad bad, going forward?

          I hope I am wrong

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        lol that’s a really broad extrapolation of what, a few people you saw that happened to post something in the last day? Just boldly labeling anyone who had a criticism of Biden as a bitter troll or something?

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        Me, 22 days ago

        We’ve never had a pair of candidates this unpopular. (Maybe Trump vs Clinton)
        If the Dems had any kind of brains, they absolutely would pick someone else at the convention.
        Just not Harris; She might be the only one, less popular than Biden is.

        At this point, I guess she’s a better pick than Biden, just not by much.
        I still want an open convention, and someone else.

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          I think the missing factor to consider is that Biden is unpopular mostly because of the media telling absolute dogshit lies about him like that he was bad for the economy.

          Sure, he’s old. But if “elderly” was a disqualifying factor, then “insurrectionist” would be, also. I think the issue is that the media is going in the tank against the progressive, as they tend to do, and that that has the potential to swing against any genuinely decent candidate that the Democrats want to put forward. I sorta hesitate to say that a good answer to that is “okay well let’s just put forward a more corporate friendly candidate who will be ‘popular’ with the people whose perception is shaped by the media.”

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            But if “elderly” was a disqualifying factor, then “insurrectionist” would be, also.

            Those two things are unrelated.
            One is a crime, the other is inevitable.

            But my issue is that nearly all the Democratic elite, are more or less anti-progressive. The only real economic populist thing I know Biden did was appoint Lina Kahn as the FTC chair.

            I would love to see her as a candidate! But she chose to be born in England, taking herself out of the running.

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              The only real economic populist thing I know Biden did was appoint Lina Kahn as the FTC chair.

              Half a trillion dollars spent addressing climate change, huge boosts to domestic manufacturing and unions, resulting in big wage gains for the working class outpacing even historic levels of inflation, income inequality actually going down which usually doesn’t happen in the US, big hike in corporate tax by two trillion dollars to pay for all of that

              The fact that Biden wasn’t seen as a victory for working people and progressive goals in the US is a sign of how INSANELY counterfactual our media created political reality is

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                Don’t forget getting Student Loans to be somewhat affordable. 5% of not just your total income, but your disposable income, accounting for basic cost of living. That actually convinced me to step away from my ongoing education and enter loan repayment. A huge deal considering how much loan debt I have…

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      Oh yeah I’ve been called a fascist already because I said I’d vote for Harris and that while she isn’t the best candidate she will be leagues better than Biden imo.

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      Everything they already pinned on Joe (like mainly Israel) they can pin on her because she was part of the same administration. Plus they will now also point at things from her past, like history as a criminal prosecutor, and blame her for that as well. Since that won’t align with progressive criminal reform agenda. And they might call her a race traitor as well, just for good measure. Should be interesting to see what the tankies and communists come up with.

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        Your argument is bizarre. Please explain why someone wouldn’t use “things from her past” to inform their vote. You use the word “blame” as though she is a victim of her own decisions.

        I don’t know a single communist who would call someone a race traitor. That’s nuts and your anger is very misdirected.

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          Things from the past are worth knowing for sure but what’s important are her goals now, her administration, and her platform overall.

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          I actually was curious about it, so I looked over his posts, and it’s all over the place. Pro-Marianne Williamson, anti-Nancy Pelosi, pro-open convention and by implication anti-“coronation”, criticizing Harris for not being LBGTQ friendly enough…

          Actually. You know what, it’s not really all that all over the place. 🙂 It’s just a little bit subtle with the consistent anti-Harris / anti-Democrat message, from different angles, enough so that I didn’t really pick up on it until I started typing them out.

          Also I notice Marianne Williamson is starting to edge out Cornel West as the nonsensical candidate to support instead of the candidate that might be able to win the election

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          And her past as a prosecutor, and the fact that she lost the primary 4 years ago, and her laugh. In addition to yours, that’s all I’ve seen so far. They ran “Heels up Harris” into the ground several years ago, but I do think it will make a return at some point. It was a shit insult but so are the others they’re trying to use.

          Really all they have is a terrible legal gambit to try to keep her off ballots. That one is laughably bad. No deadlines have passed. The idiot at the front of the House said something stupid. I would hammer that until election day. “The Republicans did their best to keep us off the ballot because they hate freedom and democracy. They don’t want you to have a choice. And Trump endorsed Harris. Here’s the check.”

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            She also said something hard to understand about coconuts. Don’t forget that one. That means something or other.

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              Now they’re panicking and can’t decide if she’s unlikable or if she’s the “whacky aunt” entertaining everyone at the barbecue.

              I went to the other place to check TFGs meltdown tweets or truths or turds or whatever they call them and I was not disappointed. He is asking for his money back because the attack ads they’ve purchased were against Joe.

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        I guess I wasn’t talking about you then, was I?

        But do please explain why I shouldn’t have ignored the people I wasn’t criticizing when I was criticizing another group. Is this some weird ‘both sides’ thing?

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          It’s an easy way to group all of someone together and pretend that everyone was the same, when we aren’t.

          You pretend like there are only a few people who are like me and that the vast aren’t.

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      there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore.

      is there any evidence for this claim at all?

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    The problem with a 2 party system is that it is a lot easier to make the opposition look bad rather than make your candidate look good.

    So all these MAGAs lost a lot of money since their smear campaign of Biden is now worth nothing and they will have to start over.

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      The smear campaign for Harris is already ramping up into full fashion.

      Anything and everything is being thrown at the wall to see if it sticks. It’s absolutely disgusting behavior.

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        Goes to show - is that what they really wanted? I think this highlights that they really just enjoyed all the mudslinging more than anything.

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      The nice thing about spending money in support of a candidate is that if that candidate withdraws and chooses to back another candidate then most of that campaign money spent is still a net positive.

      Whereas, the GOP’s entire attack strategy almost certainly focused on just Biden and not a whole lot of policy attacks. With Biden out, that money may as well be a pile of cash they lit on fire. They’ve also spent quite a bit on content they haven’t released yet that is no longer relevant to this election.

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        They’re pretty good at wasting money if you look at the last few republican presidencies. Spend spend spend, but not on American citizens. That would be socialism.

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    They’re going to be mad no matter what. When Democrats try to pass Republican legislation they get mad.

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      That’s because they have an opposition based moral system instead of one based on good and evil. The only way to beat Republicans is never to play their games since the only way to win their game (in their eyes) is to fall in their ranks (agreeing with them sometimes doesn’t make them like you either).

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    Oh did your sure thing evaporate now that you’re not running against a dementia patient?

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      Please don’t. They might enjoy it and the thought of making more of them is sickening

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    Of course they are mad. The Republican strategy up until this point has been to attack the incumbent, but now the incumbent is no longer running for re-election. Trump literally doesn’t know how to deal with this situation. His whole shtick is to attack the person currently in charge, but that doesn’t do shit for him now.

    A big part of why he lost in 2020, imo, is that he didn’t have anybody to blame for all the bad shit happening in the country at the time. He himself was in charge and could only say “things will get worse under Biden”, but people were sick of Covid fucking up our lives and the endless scandals that hit the news daily.

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      the Republican Party had "spent tens of millions of dollars running against Joe Biden

      Damn, if only they had spent that tens of millions of dollars campaigning for somebody, then this wouldn’t have even mattered.

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        Or even attack the policies. The problem for the Trump Party is that they are a cult of personality and don’t understand what policy really means.

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      He’s gonna tie every biden policy to Hillary Clinton and attack her based on that.

      Then hopefully someone will remind him that he’s running against Kamala Harris and not Clinton.

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        More likely they will just make up a connection with Hillary and Kamala. Like they are in the same coven and drink adrenochrome together.

        Why did my keyboard know autocorrect the spelling of that word?

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            It’s a real substance the body makes, but it can also be synthesized. As such, people have taken it to try it out. Iirc it isn’t even a fun high, so they started making up that children make “better” versions or something.

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              It’s just blood libel with the label scrapped off. Until you dig deeper into right wing conspiracies, then it’s just regular blood libel.