Vice President Kamala Harris quickly racked up endorsements after
President Joe Biden exited the 2024 race, but some made the case for an
open convention.
If the delegates get to swoop in at the last to make someone nobody’s ever heard of the nominee instead of Harris, that’s going to be a coronation that totally disregards voters. Harris being the nominee is what would have happened anyway if Biden had to step down and the logical way to go here.
Harris is not my favorite person in the world, but I guarantee there’s a chunk of convention delegates who want someone like a Manchin or a Bloomberg or a Clinton or someone else worse.
People love this talking point, as if Hillary didn’t also win the popular and electoral votes in that primary. She still would’ve had the nomination of there were no super delegates.
I wanted 8 years of Bernie too, but let’s chill with the conspiracy theories.
I think she’s a bad choice to beat Trump and the most important thing is to beat Trump. If she’s the pick I’ll back her - but I’m not going to support someone who I think will lose while there’s still a choice.
Edit: Beautiful show of unity - downvoting someone saying they’ll back the eventual candidate. This kind of head-in-sand bullshit is what loses us fucking elections and it was all over the place shouting down people with legitimate criticisms of Biden before he stepped down.
And who realistically is a better choice at this point? I can’t think of a single other Democrat with the recognition to pull a presidential campaign together in 3 months.
The only person I have heard that even remotely has a chance of being the pick instead of Harris is Gavin Newsom and he both doesn’t seem to want it and also polls really badly against Trump.
Yeah, he’s widely known outside of California, but largely because he’s a massive punching bag for conservatives. Not a good pick for a presidential race.
I think Gavin Newsom will be a very strong candidate if he had time to prime the pump. Which is I imagine what he was planning to do in 2028. A shorter, if we can call four months short good Lord, campaign is not in his favor.
She performed poorly on the national stage last time she was on it. She has a decent voting record but doesn’t have a lot of sponsored legislation. She has a deep flaw from being a former prosecutor. I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
I think we can do better and choose someone who can excite the voterbase to get folks to turn up. We need to fight voter apathy.
I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
Just because you’re not aware of something doesn’t mean it isn’t the case.
Let’s see if she can deliver a passionate platform, it’s kinda her entire job as a politician and if I, a hyperaware political person, am not familiar with it, then most people have no fucking clue.
Most people have no fucking clue because she’s been in the shadows for four years as VP and I think it was pretty obvious that Obama’s former VP was going to get the nomination in 2020.
She still has a lot of time for voters to get to know her and your claim of hyperawareness didn’t apparently extend to the fact that a whole lot of presidents have been lawyers.
Then let it be an open convention. The last time the DNC crowned someone we got Hillary and a bunch of young voters switched over to Trump.
We should have an open convention even if there’s a likely outcome to foster unity.
If the delegates get to swoop in at the last to make someone nobody’s ever heard of the nominee instead of Harris, that’s going to be a coronation that totally disregards voters. Harris being the nominee is what would have happened anyway if Biden had to step down and the logical way to go here.
Harris is not my favorite person in the world, but I guarantee there’s a chunk of convention delegates who want someone like a Manchin or a Bloomberg or a Clinton or someone else worse.
People love this talking point, as if Hillary didn’t also win the popular and electoral votes in that primary. She still would’ve had the nomination of there were no super delegates.
I wanted 8 years of Bernie too, but let’s chill with the conspiracy theories.
Hilary and Bernie fought a bruising primary battle, with elections in all 50 states that was actually somewhat close. There was no “crowning”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Yes, I’m sure there will be a lot of “unity” from people like yourself when it’s Kamala Harris anyway.
There will be, yes.
I think she’s a bad choice to beat Trump and the most important thing is to beat Trump. If she’s the pick I’ll back her - but I’m not going to support someone who I think will lose while there’s still a choice.
Edit: Beautiful show of unity - downvoting someone saying they’ll back the eventual candidate. This kind of head-in-sand bullshit is what loses us fucking elections and it was all over the place shouting down people with legitimate criticisms of Biden before he stepped down.
Why in specific is she a bad choice?
And who realistically is a better choice at this point? I can’t think of a single other Democrat with the recognition to pull a presidential campaign together in 3 months.
The only person I have heard that even remotely has a chance of being the pick instead of Harris is Gavin Newsom and he both doesn’t seem to want it and also polls really badly against Trump.
Yeah, he’s widely known outside of California, but largely because he’s a massive punching bag for conservatives. Not a good pick for a presidential race.
I think Gavin Newsom will be a very strong candidate if he had time to prime the pump. Which is I imagine what he was planning to do in 2028. A shorter, if we can call four months short good Lord, campaign is not in his favor.
She performed poorly on the national stage last time she was on it. She has a decent voting record but doesn’t have a lot of sponsored legislation. She has a deep flaw from being a former prosecutor. I’m not aware of her having a passion to fix any particular problems.
I think we can do better and choose someone who can excite the voterbase to get folks to turn up. We need to fight voter apathy.
So like Joe Biden in 2020 who got elected anyway.
Who gives a shit?
That is in no way a flaw, let alone a deep one.
On top of that, 13 presidents have been lawyers, including Clinton and Obama.
Just because you’re not aware of something doesn’t mean it isn’t the case.
Let’s see if she can deliver a passionate platform, it’s kinda her entire job as a politician and if I, a hyperaware political person, am not familiar with it, then most people have no fucking clue.
Most people have no fucking clue because she’s been in the shadows for four years as VP and I think it was pretty obvious that Obama’s former VP was going to get the nomination in 2020.
She still has a lot of time for voters to get to know her and your claim of hyperawareness didn’t apparently extend to the fact that a whole lot of presidents have been lawyers.
Biden was hardly a foregone conclusion in 2020.