• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden’s own website or the White House’s website first.

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      This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

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    4 months ago

    WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL MY BIDEN HATS, FLAGS, T-SHIRTS, AND STICKERS?!

    /Just kidding - not in a cult 😅

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    Bernie 2024, even if he dies of a heart attack first day his appointments would change the country for good and I don’t trust any party politicians on Palestine.

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      I think bernie could wipe the floor with any sitting senator of any age he comes up against but with bidens age and recent performance there is no way you will convince everyone with bernies age factor.

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        4 months ago

        Seeing AOC oddly shill for Biden before he dropped out… which I’d expect from Pelosi, Schumer & Schiff, but not from her. She may actually be trying to get the VP spot.

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          She just did the calculus that Biden was our best shot, due to a whole shitton of different factors from Biden’s support among elderly voters, union support, money raised, polls being pretty crap for a few cycles now, shit like that.

          Now there will be logistical challenges, we have a lot of uncertainty ahead. She wanted to avoid that until we got some better answers.

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            Biden bros: No one has a plan if Biden drops out. Everyone else: Here is our plan. Biden bros still: No one has a plan if Biden drops out.

            Plan was open convention where delegates decide.

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          Or you could read her arguments, which were direct and pragmatic. She was talking about how difficult this would be logistically, and that it would have been better to do 6 months ago, you know, when the progressive wing of the party raised the issue.

          AOC was “shilling” for some consistency, backbone and party unity out of a pragmatic need to beat back fascism. Now that this choice has been made, I’m betting she will continue with the same intent.

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            Biden was going to lose and he was making other Democrats lose. What did you expect the party to do, unite behind losing to Trump?

            AOC was prob smart, saw Biden didn’t believe he was going to lose and saw an opportunity before it played out.

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          Which is hilarious because Pelosi, Schumer, and Schiff were all against Biden continuing in the race…

          AOC understands politics and thinks things through, that’s it.

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            AOC has always been considered an outsider to Democrat leadership. She prob was thinking things through, but I don’t think it is because she thought Biden was going to win.

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          Politics is about getting the things you want, not dunking on people that disagree with you on a couple of things. You gotta compromise with people to get what you want. People feel like being uncompromising is somehow admirable, but in politics it means you get nothing. MAGAs are uncompromising, and they get a lot of likes on social media for it, but they’ve accomplish exactly nothing after winning the House in 2022.

          Biden has been good for the progressive wing of the party, and they may not get as good of a deal with Harris as they did with Biden. They will have to negotiate compromises with someone new and may not get as much.

          So do you rather politicians compromising and getting something to benefit you, or grandstanding and accomplishing nothing except providing a small amount of entertainment for you?

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            Biden has seriously hurt the party. If they enthrone Kamala without doing some balanced process to have her debate or compete against anyone else, and she somehow beats Trump then… I fully expect Republicans to take the House & Senate because of the damage Biden did to the party.

            Politics is about compromise. I fully agree with you on that. To get things passed, you actually have to call up Republicans and ask them if they’ll try to work with you and what their vision is, and what they’d like to do… and try to come to an agreement.

            AOC has likely done the same here. She saw an opportunity to get something or to help progressives in some way, which required taking a backseat for a little while, but ultimately she’ll get something in return. I get it and understand that. It was just surprising.

            The DNC & Clinton seriously damaged the Democrat party in 2016, and Biden has restored some consistency, but it shifted significantly the right after that. Lest not forget Biden gleefully supporting a genocidal maniac and sending weapons to kill thousands of children. Its pretty sad when Democrats argue that more children would have died under Trump, so that somehow makes it okay.

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        Senator Mark Kelly, he can do this

        He flipped AZ to blue

        He is an astronaut, all American, former servicemen

        He can get red votes and blue alike

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          Hmm…not bad. Not amazing name recognition, but that could be remedied.

          Having Gabby campaign for/with him, especially after the DJT assassination attempt, could be beneficial, too. (Or could look like a disgusting political plot, but that’s really all our politics.)

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          Isn’t senator Kelly the one that created the mutant registration act?

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          If Harris is in, she can use the money already donated. Otherwise they have to start from scratch.

          So it’s almost guaranteed Harris will be in. Who they pick for VP is the question.

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        This late in the game, it’s almost certainly Harris. Probably picks a swing state governor like Whitmer or Shapiro.

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          Or Mark Kelly. Regardless, it’s probably going to be a white male from a swing state to appeal to as broad of an electorate as possible.

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      This means Harris shouldn’t have an advantage. She only had the advantage that she could use the funds that Biden raised.

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        I think she’s as fine a candidate as we’re likely to get. The biggest bonus is breaking the glass ceiling, once and for ever. Not just a woman but a woman of a colorful heredity. It will be the best thing to happen in this era of bullshit politics.

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          I don’t know, that sounds awfully sexist and racist. There are a thousand things more important about a person than their heritage and sex.

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    I see so many suggestions for different people to run in bidens place, and I fear that that may lead to enough disunity for Trump to win an Election

    Leaves me curious to see how this will play out

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      Don’t worry: this place doesn’t reflect the general american public in any meaningful way. That said, the general american public is probably a bit confused as well.

      I’ll throw my 2 cents in: Jon Stewart should make a sketch about how he jokingly accepts the candidacy but then it turns out to be official to his “dismay”.

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      If the DNC of the past is any indication, they’ll ignore voters and put up the most boring, uncompelling candidate they can.

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          I wanted AOC but her last few posts have been cringe. She’s divisive, but that could have worked in her favor. Prob. will be Kamala. I think they should have an open convention & let delegates decide though.

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          Both candidates are experiencing decline, and if Biden were elected and incapable of doing the job it would have resulted in a Harris Presidency anyway. It’s such an odd thing to object over. We’ve had presidents in decline before and the country kept running just fine, (FDR, Reagan.)

          Biden did a fine job in office, I’m especially proud of his union support, and his policies were spot on in my opinion. To throw him under the bus like this seems really shitty.

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    the DNC just threw the election… wow. billionaires really do control our country.

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    Disliked Biden, hate Kamala. Voted for them. Kamala and anyone else, nope.

    They need someone hopey and feely like a 2008 Obama. If they don’t find that, the Dems are toast. And I can’t think of any mainstream politician that could get that reaction apart from maybe AOC. But that would get just as many MAGAs on the other side out to vote and they’d still lose.

    You need empowering Democrat that is neutral to the MTG loving republicans.

    Maybe Newsom? But if I had to bet it will be Kamala and another woman or minority to get the double whammy and they’ll surely lose.

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        I know about Project 2025. I never said I was voting for Trump. But I’m not gonna play along with this “you only have two choices so vote for the lesser evil” shit. The democrats did this to themselves and they should pay the price. They keep fucking up because of all the old people who refuse to give up power and because they think they can play the moral high ground and win.

        RBG should have retired when Obama was president so he can appoint another liberal but she died when Trump was president think she was stubborn enough to hold off death. Obama should have appointed another judge when Scalia died but tried to be morally right and allow the next president to choose. Thinking it would be an easy win for Hilary he made a big gamble and lost. Feinstein stayed in office until her death at 90. Fuckin 90! Pelosi is 84 and still in office. These fossils need to get the fuck out of the way and let the people who actually have to live in this reality set the policies.

        Why the hell should I reward the people who were the ones to fuck up this country. And yes I know both sides did their part. I see these two parties as the same and voting for either one of them is repeating the cycle.

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          But I’m not gonna play along with this “you only have two choices so vote for the lesser evil” shit.

          This is literally just true though. Like yeah, it sucks, but be an adult and vote for the only viable candidate who isn’t a fascist. I don’t wanna get sent to a camp for being trans.