• toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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      Don’t try the test, I gave it a shot and it charges ten bucks for your results, which I think knocks twenty iq points off.

      I got 138 on another test which I think brings it to 118 after I fell for this, probably still an overestimate.

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        You could go to your psychiatrists office. I had to be tested on 2 different forms of IQ for my ADHD diagnosis to be official.

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            Based on their testing I’m simultaneously a genius and an idiot by different metrics. Lol. I need to find that paper in my medical records.

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          I… uh… didn’t have to be tested for my diagnosis. I was majoring in both physics and math at the time and the psychiatrist didn’t think it was necessary. And honestly I’m grateful, I’m happier not knowing.

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            Honestly, I should have told them I was majoring in computer science and math. It might have saved me some time.

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        Yup. The scam goes you take the test out of curiosity, its probably not terribly accurate, but then they offer “results” after trying to make you sound smart, with things like “insights”

        There’s nothing significant past it. They phrased it that way to stroke dumb people’s ego,

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          No, I got a score from a different test that still wanted money but they gave you a number without paying at least. I ain’t paying for that shit lol

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    IQ is not an objective measure of intelligence, because intelligence is colloquial and subjective. If I told you I invented an instrument that could objectively score every human on their beauty, you’d see the problem right away.

    IQ was a project of Eugenics. It’s trash science.

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      IQ is useful for an individual to asses mental degradation. It’s not useful to compare IQ to others, but to compare your own personal reaults, after something like a stroke or an accident where brain damage may have occurred.

      That being said, it needs to be a proper IQ test administered by a psychologist and not a random IQ test website

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        Again, no, not really. There are so many different kinds of effects that brain damage can have, and IQ doesn’t cover it.

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          Sure, but I guess that it’s just a small part in a battery of tests to evaluate the effects of an injury. I mean, it does measure something, even if it’s just the ability to sit for a test.

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            Sure, but so does a polygraph test. There’s a reason we don’t use them, because they’re pseudoscientific and misleading.

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              If you’re measuring heart rate, breathing and sweating, I guess you could use a polygraph. If you want to measure a potential cognitive decline in a single person, you can have them do several of these tests to see if there’s a trend. There is nothing pseudoscientific about using these methods in this way. The pseudoscience comes in when we’re trying to tie the results to truthfulness in the case of the polygraph or intelligence in the case of the IQ test. Or even worse, when trying to compare two individuals from their results.

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                If you want to measure heart rate, you measure heart rate. You wouldn’t use a polygraph because it makes no sense.

                If you want to measure cognitive decline, you use a test designed for that purpose such as the Montreal Cognitive Assessment or the Mini-Mental State Examination. Cognitive decline affects so many things which IQ has nothing to do with, such as self-orientation, executive function, and so on.

                It’s just not a good or useful metric for the purpose.

                Next, you’ll be defending the potential applications of phrenology.

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      IQ is a basic tool that allows a quick interpretation of someone’s mental capacity. It’s like BMI. Yes, some edge cases don’t fit the general rule. However, if you have room temperature IQ, there’s a solid chance you’re dumber than a box of rocks.

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        No, studies on IQ have shown that the test design often assume something about the population taking the test. If you produce a test for British students in secondary school and give it to miners in Zimbabwe, then the miners will probably achieve way lower scores than is it expected. This is because the students are more used to taking tests. IQ tests have been used in this way to promote racist ideas, when the real problem is the methodology behind IQ tests.

        There’s a whole book about this, “the mismeasure of man”, by Stephen Jay Gould.

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          If you produce a test for British students in secondary school and give it to miners in Zimbabwe, then the miners will probably achieve way lower scores than is it expected.

          “If you use the wrong test and get bad results it means the test is wrong.” No you dummy it means you don’t know how to test.

          I’m sorry but the guy in OP is not a Zimbabwean miner. He’s a white ass man and therefore shouldn’t be affected by the pretend racistness of IQ test.

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            I used the example to illustrate a point. The tests have a target population that they are constructed for. This is also the reason as to why modern people score really high on old tests, because they are not the target population. The thing is, people aren’t very different, neither across cultures nor across time. We should expect the average person of today to be just as intelligent as the average person of 1924, but they score differently in the test. It’s almost as if the test doesn’t measure intelligence at all! If the tests actually measured intelligence, they wouldn’t need to be specifically designed for a certain population.

            When an IQ-test is designed, a number of assumptions are made, e.g., normal distribution, that an underlying factor is well described by the battery of questions and that this underlying factor is the best thing that can explain the variation seen. All these assumptions are debatable at best. I mean, it’s just factor analysis, and all the assumptions of that statistical method applies.

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              And yet, except very specific and rare outliers, people who score low on IQ test are generally dumber than people who don’t.

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        No, it’s total garbage science. It’s absolutely useless for the purposes that people use it for. It has been used to give racists excuses to exclude non-white people for years.

        So yeah, like BMI.

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            I’m trying to helping you correct your misconceptions, if you just want to be a stubborn smartass about it, that’s your problem.

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              BMI and IQ are perfectly valid basic estimation of weight and intelligence in 90% of the cases. Unless you are one of the rare edge cases, a BMI of 36 means you’re a fatty. If your IQ is lower than average, there’s a solid chance you’re dumber than average.

              Simple as.

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                You’re totally wrong, sorry. But I can’t change your mind for you. If you’re so closed off to being wrong about something that you’re unwilling to accept the truth when led directly to it, clearly discussing it with you would be a total waste of my time.

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                  You’re totally wrong, sorry. But I can’t change your mind for you. If you’re so closed off to being wrong about something that you’re unwilling to accept the truth when led directly to it, clearly discussing it with you would be a total waste of my time.

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      You actually can rank people on their beauty, using an ELO algorithm

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    It’s so funny, because these IQ tests are normally just ways to stroke someone’s ego before talking them out of their personal information or trying to sell them something. I’ve never actually seen someone post a result below 100, much less below 80.

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      Somebody once made one where it showed the test taker a high result, but anybody else who viewed the result was shown a low result. I believe the way it worked was that the test gave you a hyperlink to share the result, but and then if the same person who took the test accessed the link, identified via cookies or other tracking measure, they were shown a high result, and anybody else got to see a result just above retarted.

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      I had a girlfriend in school who I deeply wanted to convince was smarter than she thought she was so I had her take an IQ test online. Just to help prove she was smart.

      Got a 70. Didn’t even know what it meant, kept saying she got a C which didn’t seem that smart.

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    Oh look, this again. At this point, I have seen this “my IQ is so high posts low IQ” thing so much, I assume it is faked. At the very least it tells me that the account is likely just a ragebait for engagement account. They probably don’t even care about politics.

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      So because I’m in a hotel room and unable to sleep I took that test in particular just to see, A, what the test was like and B, you know. Just to see.

      Getting the results costs 10 fucking dollars.

      I imagine the vast majority of people who obtain those results are on the bottom half of the spectrum.

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      I was suprised at the range for what counts as average. The spread it pretty wide. Between 80 and 120 is considered average.

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      This feels a lot like pretty people saying that looks don’t matter all of a sudden.

      I wonder if there’s a relation with people saying that what they have is not valuable.

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    I am disappointed that “Heels up Harris” is not a super relaxed group supporting Harris. You know “up your heels up on the foot stool and relax after a long day of work”.

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      Would actually be sick to co-opt that name and use it for exactly that. Just a group of Harris for President supports chilling with their feet up, fighting the good fight but not getting stressed.