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minus-squared00ery@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 months agoWe chase money because this equates to goods and services. Well there’s a huge excess of money being produced and horded. This excess production is a result of … work (plus machinery, efficiency improvements etc). So if we reduced the numbers of hours worked we’d reduce this excess. 
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldMlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·3 months agoOnce again, if everyone is to be paid equally, as has been established, why would most people choose to do physically demanding jobs?
minus-squared00ery@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·edit-23 months agoIt’s really not my argument. I’m saying we can work fewer hours. However since you insist on bringing up the point of pay equality, under the current system, how can you justify the following discrepancies: Why should a fireman risk their life for $56k? https://www.indeed.com/career/firefighter/salaries Or a teacher who’s bringing up the future generation get just $36k? https://www.indeed.com/career/teacher/salaries Whilst a web developer gets nearly double for sitting on their ass? https://www.indeed.com/career/web-developer/salaries Why does a plastic surgeon earn $100k more than an oncologist (who is, I’d argue, much more likely to save save a life) https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/education/doctor-salary-in-us/
minus-squareFlying Squid@lemmy.worldMlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·3 months agoThe only one of those that is hard physical labor is firefighter and it is not the consistent physical labor of farm work. Have you ever even been on a farm?
minus-squared00ery@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·3 months agoLol. Congrats on the laser focus there. I’m going to leave you and your farm workers, ditch diggers, miners etc, to it.
We chase money because this equates to goods and services. Well there’s a huge excess of money being produced and horded.
This excess production is a result of … work (plus machinery, efficiency improvements etc).
So if we reduced the numbers of hours worked we’d reduce this excess.

Once again, if everyone is to be paid equally, as has been established, why would most people choose to do physically demanding jobs?
It’s really not my argument. I’m saying we can work fewer hours.
However since you insist on bringing up the point of pay equality, under the current system, how can you justify the following discrepancies:
Why should a fireman risk their life for $56k? https://www.indeed.com/career/firefighter/salaries
Or a teacher who’s bringing up the future generation get just $36k? https://www.indeed.com/career/teacher/salaries
Whilst a web developer gets nearly double for sitting on their ass? https://www.indeed.com/career/web-developer/salaries
Why does a plastic surgeon earn $100k more than an oncologist (who is, I’d argue, much more likely to save save a life) https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/education/doctor-salary-in-us/
The only one of those that is hard physical labor is firefighter and it is not the consistent physical labor of farm work. Have you ever even been on a farm?
Lol. Congrats on the laser focus there.
I’m going to leave you and your farm workers, ditch diggers, miners etc, to it.