• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Because West Los Angeles is just full of people who have any say about what happens in Gaza… 🙄

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      3 months ago

      What’s happening in Gaza is being directly funded by all of our taxes, there’s not a particular location that the protesting needs to be done, it just needs to be done.

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        3 months ago

        If you want to protest tax dollars, take it to the Mall in D.C. and shut down their infrastructure.

        If you actually care about what’s happening in Gaza, take it to Tel Aviv.

        Anything else is a pointless “look at me!” protest.

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          lol “if you wanna protest, literally travel across the whole ass country or the world. Nothing local matters.”

          You’re either a supporter of Israel or you don’t know history. I can’t think of any other way to get to what you just posted.

          So do you support Israel or do you not understand how every expansion of civil rights in the 20th and 21st century were won?

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            3 months ago

            Local very much matters, for local issues. See the protests directly in Ferguson for example.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest

            The related protests outside Ferguson accomplished fuck all.

            If the issue is an international issue, a local protest means and accomplishes NOTHING other than a mild inconvenience for people completely unrelated to the problem.

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          Not everyone can just ship themselves off to DC and like, shut down infrastructure. Let alone travel internationally. Being in a financial position where you can do that is an incredibly privileged position to be in. We have to do what we can, where we are to make change - and for people living in LA that means protesting in LA. A lot of protesting IS about visibility, and doing it so you can be noticed is far from pointless! Blocking traffic anywhere in this country is directly making sure that you and your message cannot be ignored.

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      Local and state governments absolutely have a say through their investments to Israel. It’s just as important to pressure them for divestment as the federal government and corporations on the BDS list.

      Not only are state and local lawmakers more accessible to constituents than federal lawmakers, but local investment portfolios also hold billions of dollars in funding to Israel sourced from the everyday taxes of community members. State and local governments across the U.S. hold more than $4 trillion in all investments in their investment portfolios. At least $1.6 billion in Israel Bonds is held between state governments, municipal governments, and public pension funds nationwide. Those investment dollars come from every individual, household, and business within the municipal or state borders that pay property taxes, income taxes, and sales taxes, making them some of the most representative pools of dollars invested on behalf of the public. Saper says that campaigns targeting the investment of these local dollars “invite people to reckon with how implicated we are here at home with the atrocities we are witnessing abroad.”

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        The people screaming for divestment have no idea what’s involved. In many cases there are contractual obligations that make it impossible.

        The people screaming for it have no idea how any of it works, they just want it stopped and will continue to get angry when it doesn’t.

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          This is nonviolent civil disobedience to protect the financial support of an ongoing genocide. Acting like this isn’t a valid form of protest or that the BDS movement have “no idea what’s involved” when putting pressure on corporations and institutions to Divest is ridiculous.

          These kind of protests do put pressure and bring the issue to the forefront of the local and state administrative bodies. The BDS movement was successful in the divestment of Apartheid South Africa, this isn’t too different

          “Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue,” King wrote. “It seeks so to dramatize the issue that it can no longer be ignored.”

          • MLK Jr. on the nature of nonviolent protests
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            MLK protested where the offenses were actually happening. That’s why they were effective.

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              Yeah dude, that’s why the anti-apartheid protests and BDS movement in the United States were so unsuccessful and not effective when it came to South Africa

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              The offenses are actually happening in the US, too. That’s where the voters voting for genocide enablers are located, that are sending all the bombs to Gaza to blow up schools and hospitals.