It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice
Yeah.
It’s not that wild lol
Not people, conservatives
So conservatives are not people, or I misinterpreted your comment?
Not conservatives, regressives.
Literally the same thing
Definitionally identical
It’s completely wild that… Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
Your comparison is stupid.
@idiomaddict talks about cow milk and soy milk, yet you go on a rant about how “cOw MiLk iS nOrMaL?!!”.
I’m on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
We’ve been eating animals a few million years longer than drinking their milk. (Lactose intolerance is far more common than generally thought.)
how the FUCK do you think babies grow
The problem is that they give the cows growth hormone and high amounts of estrogen to encourage lactation and it’s in the milk. I’m lactose intolerant like half of adults anyway so I do almond milk and olive oil butter personally.
That doesn’t make any sense. Estrogen wouldn’t even make a cow produce more milk. Are you confusing Estrogen with Prolactin? (which also isn’t given to cows, but would at least have the effect you describe)
None of those chemicals are allowed to be present in the milk of cows lactating for human consumption. They test the milk for those chemicals at the dairy. If any trace amount is found, the whole tanker is dumped as contaminated.
the fda has found no significant difference in milk from cows treated with rBST
source: it came to me in a dream/random food package i read
I don’t know where you live but I have never ever heard about giving estrogen to cows to force lactation. Just as a reminder, cows produce milk after they got a calf.
By drinking human hormone juice and getting their hormones messed with. It’s good and helpful for babies.
The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn’t contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn’t produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking
excessivecows milkleeches calcium out of our bones andexposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
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Cow milk is full of estrogen and growth hormone.
As far as i know hormone concentration in milk is strictly regulated
afaik, it’s not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it’s often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has “estrogens” in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That’s why there’s no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
I dunno, just mentioning what I’ve heard before, hence the ‘afaik’
but you see, the whole of Asia is made up of just women so that proves it! /s
by who? facebook?
You know what I’ve been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
I think I remember a 4chan post with the supplemental thing, might originate from there instead idk
I expect the soyboy stuff originated on 4chan. But I would believe the “evidence” for other people commenting about it is also on Facebook.
I mean on Facebook it kinda makes sense that the crazy rises to the top. The normal people limit their posts to friends only. You can spot the crazies. They have all posts set to world visible.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
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Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
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Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
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Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
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Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
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In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
- Reducing menopausal symptoms like hot flashes in some women[1][3]
- Improving cardiovascular health markers[2][4]
- Reducing risk of certain cancers like breast and prostate cancer[3][6]
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
- Blocking estrogen receptors and reducing the body’s own estrogen production[1][3]
- Interfering with thyroid function in some cases[2]
- Potential effects on breast and prostate cancer risk, though the evidence is inconclusive[3][6]
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
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Meanwhile cow milk is full of estrogen because it helps the cows to lactate.
Omg do they really believe that?
There are people who do.
See, what his coworkers did was good bullying. Anon learned something and also wasn’t fired for whatever skeevy pseudosexual thing he was implying about his coworker, probably over politics. Winning hearts and minds, people.
It’s phytoestrogen, dummy Anon.
Fragile bros terrified of phytoestrogen in soy will be chugging dairy milk without a single concern.
All my dairy milk comes from bulls.
Is that why my milk has been so salty recently?
If you let your boss bully you into explaining what a soyboy is, you are in fact a soyboy
I moved to a rural area a few years back and there’s a lot of farms here. Thus, many of the people I’ve met are farmers or have worked on farms. After a year or so of asking people what they raise/grow on their farms it finally happened and I met someone who said they grew soybeans. I asked him if he was a soyboy and he was really not amused.
I’m pretty sure he saw it coming too, when he said soybeans I had to have a huge shit eating grin on my face. I was waiting for that day
Nut milk comes from male cows.
I never know what to make of these posts like this because it seems like Anon is okay with laughing at themselves
Reminds me of the youtuber Jake Tran. Ever since he made that in video about soy milk turning people into soyboys I unsubbed. I feel like he pumped out much better content maybe in his earlier days, but lately, I think it’s conservative bs.
Its amazing how common that is.
Its almost like they know their views are terrible and hide them until they have built up enough of an audience to get away with voicing said views…
How the fuck does this get posted all the time without anyone ever picking up on the fact that this workplace dynamic is obviously made up and anon is literally a 4chan kid who just changed the actors in his story from '‘teacher’ and “classmate” to ‘boss’ and ‘coworker’ so he wouldn’t get banned on an 18+ imageboard.
FOUND THE SOYBOY
Not only that, but mammal milk is literally hormone soup. Including estrogen. And soy doesn’t actually contain the same type of estrogen. They contain isoflavones including plant estrogen (phytoestrogen). Similar but different chemical, with different bioavailability in mammals.
Also:
For example, many studies have found that Western-type dietary patterns characterized by high intakes of red meat, processed foods, sweets, dairy, and refined grains are consistently associated with higher estrogen levels ( 3 , 15 , 16 , 17 ).
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods-to-lower-estrogen
Basically the diet of the carnivores that mock the soyboys. How’s that for projection?
Sorry my facts offend your feelings.
Soyboy.
Soy milk sucks, it’s probably the worst milk…
Banana milk is the best, followed by: macadamia, coconut, cashew, oat, rice, almond, flax, hemp, and then soy in last place.
What are you basing any of this on? Sounds like simple opinion and no health facts.
“X sucks” is typically an opinion, yes. I assume this one’s about taste
What kind of fuckin idiot thinks that soybeans have synthetic female hormones of a caliber that would feminize you or whatever.
I know right. If it did, you can be sure trans women would know about it.
The soy thing has to be one of the funniest delusions I’ve ever seen.
People convincing themselves that all liberals are vegans, all vegans eat a diet primarily of soy, and that soy has compounds similar to estrogen, so therefore all liberal men are feminized by their diets and are therefore weak (because being a woman is bad).
The number of weird things you have to believe out of insecurity to get to that conclusion are quite embarrassing. It’s quite a self-report.
You can also reverse the argument into mockery, accusing conservative women of being too masculine because they don’t eat enough soy, then bragging about how feminine soy-loving liberal women are.
Finding a reason to completely disregard not just the ideas but even the humanity of huge swaths of other people is conservatism 101. Just give in to your most base tribal tendencies, and “know” that all those good-sounding ideas are in fact wrong and evil because they’re coming from the wrong/lesser people.
When you can’t argue against ideas, argue against the people saying them. See if ad-hominem attacks will work on people. (narrator: they did)
