Who notices that someone is better at mounting tvs? How does one notice this? What is this made up scenario?
Besides watching someone to try to learn, craftsmen can just goon over other’s works.
At a job once updating some central lighting control there were some awesome rooms some (probably long retired) electrician had planned and installed. man that shit was so clean. Another time me n another guy were 'mirin this single ¾ conduit bend for 5 minutes.
This isn’t exactly 100% relevant to your story, but it is related and an anecdote I enjoy sharing.
I recently moved to a small town and hired an electrician to make some changes to my house. After showing him around the house, we went to look at the fuse box to determine what changes could be made.
As we were looking, he said “I know those fuses are original.” When I asked how, he pointed at the labels and said “because that’s my father’s handwriting.”
Kinda cool to have a legacy like that. The electrician did do good work, so far as I can tell, so it was likely earned as well.
“because they’re fuses instead of breakers”
That didn’t involve you learning how someone can hang tvs better than you on Facebook. Having hung a TV or two in my day, I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media
Quick edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities. Go grill or work on cars with a group of men and see what happens. It’s a fucking trope. This nonsense wholesome schtick is gross.
Lol, I thought it was just me. 😄
I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media
Well i haven’t used Facebook in a long time but i have seen (both through reading accounts on social media and a few guys personally that use Facebook successfully for their side-work. Facebook gets like 2B eyeballs daily (if not our 4)
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edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities
But toxic masculinity is definitely not asking others for help. as a tradesperson i can speak to the fear of outting myself to ridicule if i all for help. Not just me either, I’ve seen whole days of work wasted cuz guys are afraid to ask. I don’t of it’s all jobs but Construction definitely be that way.
Op reached out even so and got help instead of ridicule and are now partners instead of competitors. Like what’s not to like here?
Can’t forget the fun flip side too, where some guys who know a lot are unwilling to share, because they (being fuckin cowards) feel it’s necessary to protect their job security by being the only one who knows how to do certain things.
Or! The guys who know how to do things - have decided they hate doing some of those things (usually for good reason in my experience) - and therefore pretend they don’t know how to do them. I kinda sympathize with this one sometimes.
But yeah, “likes to teach” as the toxic trait? Anyone who thinks that is the toxic version of knowledge sharing is kinda just revealing how little time they’ve actually spent around men.
Bud, there’s a term around men over explaining things because it’s such a thing: mansplaining. There’s also a real big trope in many relationships about men trying to solve problems instead of saying “wow that sucks”. This behavior is so ubiquitous that it’s in sitcoms and has been for as long as TV has existed.
The hilarious part about your comment is you’re the one over-explaining to me here. I’m super familiar with about every way a man can be characteristically shitty, happen to have witnessed most of it first hand over the years, committed some of the milder stuff before I grew up and learned how to behave, but here you are kindly helping me understand things about men. Interestingly, of all the things I have witnessed, what I don’t really see often is “mansplaining”. What I do see sometimes is a dude earnestly doing his best to offer help and someone else being totally uncharitable about that, like it’s some affront. And never to the dude oddly enough, only in a mocking, condescending way to others behind his back. The reason I see those ugly hidden reactions, incidentally, is because my behavior makes it clear I’m a solid ally of the people making those comments, and they trust me.
So I dunno. Way I see it, there’s a catalog of valid complaints about stereotypical dude behavior. But being super critical about sincere (if clumsy) attempts to support or help someone just always strikes me as deliberately nasty, for fun. But you do you.
Don’t bother with the TV sitcoms, please. “Bumbling idiot father who fucks up even the most trivial things constantly and is roundly shit on by everyone including his own children” is a core, continuous joke behind so many shows. And fuck it, often it’s hilarious, I’m not gonna get bent outta shape about it. Your “see, look how toxic, it’s been on TV forever” feels pretty weak.
Now when you say goon…
What made the old electrician’s work especially clean or notable? Just curious what caught your eye as I’m someone not in that industry
Hmm, i used to have pics. Hard to describe with words. Beyond the beautifully square pipe runs and can punches he had a kinda signature with his sweeps and the rooms he musta done looked like he had made a master plan rather than just making it work. Oh and very little evidence of covered up mistakes (short pieces of conduit) that youd maybe only notice if you were doing demo anyway.
We would wonder who this dude was cuz there were like…a lot of rooms he had a hand in in this building. His clean work trademark was one thing, but we never knew for sure it was one of his until we’d pull the old cabinets to find his other trademark, peurile cartoons about how he really felt about his boss.
Better work with the cabling, perhaps. In this picture you can see that there’s a new work box in the drywall so he’s running hidden cables. There could be drywall patching or he’s really good at making the holes so there doesn’t need to be patching.
He could do more types of mounts than this guy is used to.
He could be faster.
Is that you’re completely unimaginative so you can’t come up with ways someone might be better or do you have so little respect for trades that you think there can’t be skill involved?
Why the hostility? I would’ve asked this question if they hadn’t, and I don’t consider myself unimaginative or disrespectful. Just uninformed…
My step-brother and I weren’t family until a decade ago. He goes into incel mode and projects his insecurity by hating on everybody.
But today, he shared this with me about something he wants to get better at as he was getting tired of being angry all the time.
So hopefully this message gets across to more people.
Y’all were always family even though you never met.
Do you know how step siblings work?
Yes, you fuck them when they get stuck under a bed
😂
Though you’re right Instead of doggin im gonna follow OPs lead an upvote the positive intentions this comment were written with
Nice message, but the thought of the existence of a competitive scene of contractors specializing in mounting TVs is hilarious. Also, that mounting plate is crooked af.
I had a plumber once, older guy, who was really eager to teach somebody the trade. He “made” me do half the work and I didn’t even mind because I learned how to do a lot of shit I didn’t know how to do before.
Be coachable in life and you will be surprised the info you can get from qualified people for free.
Also if you are handy you always have a fallback job if your 9 to 5 shitcans you unexpectedly.
It’s a sign of the times that this is upvoted so much. When I was growing up, this was called normal behavior and was boring and nobody talked about it.
If nobody talked about it, how do you know it was normal behavior?
Because we all did it, our entire family, all of our friends and every coworker.
But these were strangers.
All these people in the comments complaining that the bar isn’t level when the picture is just taken from a slight side angle? 🤦♂️🤦♂️ literal perspective problem 😂
Also people being like “lol no such thing as a TV-bar-hanger-contractor”… Audio/video contractors of course do this??? Like, who said its the only thing their job entails?? 😂
put a bubble level on it and prove it to me >:(
At least it’s the right height off of the ground… Too many people put that shit way too high.
not a bad comment, but jesus the amount of emojis and “???” really makes me feel like I’m mentally retarded and you have to talk to me like I’m a small child
You have 4 emojis in your name. I’m hoping this was supposed to be ironic.
How is it I came into the wholesome thread, and every comment seems to be people looking down on or critiquing people.
This is not a good sign
I’m here for le wholesome 🤷♂️ and people dare to be not le wholesome 😮💨🫨
It definitely is crooked lol The angle of the picture doesn’t matter you can still see that it’s crooked 😭 lmao
But yeah people be hating for no reason
Bet it’s level just the house is crooked
🤣
The post literally says he is learning, so I can imagine a crooked mount.
Conspiracy brainstorming about whether a dudes tv mount is level is kinda toxic behavior.
That bar is not straight i hate it.
You don’t like gay bars?
Racist post
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