• xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Jeez man, people got some PTSD about reddit power mods or something?? Why ya’ll gotta be so shitty to the mods??

    That thread was definitely getting toxic af, specifically the troll that posted. I agree with ya’ll saying it makes sense to encourage discussion, esp on topics that’re controversial, but like go read some of that OP’s comments on that thread! They were being shitty to people just to be shitty - I think the mod made the right call for sure.

    Even if the mod were off base, no excuse to treat 'em like shit!

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    reason: Admitting to being a troll: “I’m an agent of chaos.”

    Absolutely the limpest reason to temp ban someone from a shitposting community. From the context it was obviously an offhanded joke, not an actual admission of someone trying to disrupt the community.

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        1. Then the mods should be honest about why he’s being banned in the modlog.
        2. Him (charitably) being an overzealous meanie in defense of an honest brand of feminism does not make him a shitlord.
        3. Sometimes people need to be dunked on for both their own good and the good of the community, obviously myself included. A perfectly appropriate venue for some gentle dunking is a shitposting community.

        It’s a shame that the thread got locked. It was getting heated, but IMO that’s a good sign that what you’re talking about actually needs to be debated.

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      3 months ago

      And this is why Lemmy sucks.

      Mods have a stick up their asses even further than Reddit mods do.

      The apply rules in a petty zero-tolerance way.

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        3 months ago

        It’s just public, unlike reddit. There have been countless controversies over poor moderation on reddit. On lemmy everyone can see when someone is banned for bullshit reasons and call it out. Don’t mistake awareness for frequency

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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        3 months ago

        Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit. The point of Lemmy isn’t that no one abuses their mod and admin powers ever, but that the system is set up so that you can just go to another Lemmy server, which simply was not available on R*ddit if you pissed off the site admins.

        Although I personally find Lemmy users nicer and moderation better on average, their character is not the point. It is merely the result of an imperfect but better system than R*ddit.

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          Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit.

          That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?

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            That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?

            The “instance part” is absolutely huge. If I wanted to, I could go start a /c/lemmyshitpost on SDF Lemmy [1] with a completely new set of rules [2], particularly a set of rules that possibly would violate Lemmy.world’s TOS or possibly even the law in Lemmy.world’s jurisdiction, but not SDF’s or their jurisdiction’s laws.

            It’s not a big deal for the average user until the day you run afoul of the server admins.

            [1] As of writing this, SDF does not have a /c/lemmyshitpost.

            [2] I’m not interested in doing that lol, this is just a hypothetical. I’m annoyed at this most recent decision but nowhere near ready to leave over it.

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              yeah but when people go to add communities they ignore the little one with 3 followers when there’s a comm with the same name that has 3000.

              Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!

              Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option. The truth is whatever comm gets the biggest following first is the one everyone goes to. Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?

              For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!

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      Mods being toxic? Some things never change.

      Show me a good mod and I’ll show you an honest politician.

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    Mods be going hard lately. It’s not really good. You have mods in .ml that will ban you for not liking your opinion. You have mods that will ban you if you call out an obvious troll/bot and tell you to let them know and they’ll take care of it, BUT they ban you for reporting a troll/bot.

    They need to make it where we can see what mod is removing comments and banning people. Right now you can see what actions were taken but you have no idea who did it. It’s pretty clear there are some bad actors out there and they’re really making this platform less appealing by the day. When you let trolls run wild and ban the humans because they’re calling out bullshit… you have a problem.