• Wiz@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    This is nice, but I’d like more to see the opposite, where the series went out on a perfect note. Like Breaking Bad or M*A*S*H (imho).

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    3 months ago

    Game of thrones was not mentioned in a single comment (at the time of writing this comment).

    I guess it wasn’t soo bad on an objective scale but just fully killed the relevance of the show.

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      I don’t know what y’all are talking about about. GoT ended after season 5. It’s a shame they never finished it.

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      Legit I’ve never had a desire to rewatch any of it since the ending.

      I remember seeing leaks being posted on freefolk and thinking no fucking way these are real, realising they were, and then shitting on the rest of the last season with my partner, only way we got through it.

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      3 months ago

      I use Game of Thrones as a textbook example of how to write a show with a diverse set of characters, locations, and motivations (in the early seasons all those moving pieces fit together remarkably well), and also how not to do that, with all the plots going to pieces and the characters and their motivations falling apart in the last couple seasons.

      It’s pretty amazing how strong the show starts and how hard it screws the pooch by the end.

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        As long as they had source material to follow, the showrunners did okay. When they passed the end of the latest book, it all went to hell.

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          The still had the source material, they just wanted to end it as soon as possible.

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      I find it weird how a lot of people always talk about the ending of game of thrones was bad, bit season 7 was just as bad or worse. Season 6 was pretty bad as well, all it had going was basically: man i wonder what the next season is like. I don’t even think the ending is too bad, it’s just implemented horribly. They just needed to end it as quickly as possible. Season 7 was pretty much the low point for me. It became like a twitter show. Oh people like that character, he’s not gonna fie and gets more screen time. Or i don’t remember what season it was, but i remember watching it and thinking: why are they focusing the camera so much on this random ginger soldier. I only figured out way later that he’s a singer who had a cameo in the show. The show had so many flaws that people (me too) just overlooked because i was just interested in where it’s going and i haven’t read the books at this point. But when season 8 came around people just realised that it’s in fact not going anywhere.

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        One of the things that Game of Thrones did well early was always ensure the payoff was worth it. If you didn’t like an episode here or there, it was fine because it advanced the plot enough that you still followed the breadcrumbs and another episode down the line made it worth it.

        Season 8 was so bad because many people tolerated elements of seasons 5, 6, and 7 because they were hoping for payoff. When that payoff was underwhelming at best and utterly nonsensical at worst, people tuned out fast. People spent hundreds of hours over a decade watching the show and discussing it with their friends, and in the end, it wasn’t worth it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen something disappear so completely and quickly from the cultural zeitgeist.

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        I was going to argue that while season 7 was bad, it wasn’t as bad as season 8. But then, I remembered how shit the Beyond the Wall episode was.

        1. They come up with the stupidest fucking idea of catching a wight. Jon Snow saw them at Hardhome. It was an insane number of dead people. How the fuck do they think they are going to trap something that is dead?
        2. Why the fuck are wights doing squad patrols throughout north of the wall? They’re fucking dead. They don’t need rest, food, or water. Just scatter wights throughout the area as lookouts.
        3. Why in the ever loving fuck are they sending the most important characters to go on a suicide mission?? I’m not even going to elaborate on that.
        4. We saw the entire party leave the Wall and walk around searching for wights. When they get to that little island and start fighting them, all of a sudden, there are all these unnamed characters showing up just to die. Where the fuck did they come from‽
        5. They send a kid that grew up entirely in King’s Landing on an unarmed marathon to get help. The kid, malnourished, dehydrated af, and alone, covers a distance that took them days to travel. Once there, they send a raven to cover half the distance of the entire island to get Danerys to fly to find them. Except Danerys has never been north of the Wall. How the fuck does she know where she is going??

        I gotta stop. This is just too stupid.

    • MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I’m not sure how you could capture the cultural significance of the show in this type of graph.

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    3 months ago

    this is not the worst finales, it’s the finales that had the worst ratings vs series average. if anything this is about series that fell off near the end. there are many shows that were popular near the end, so people tuned in to the finale (which would mean a high rating) and hated the finale anyway. Seinfeld is the most popular example, even though i don’t really agree with the consensus myself.

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      3 months ago

      Also, doesn’t a show that was consistently bad have a bad finale? The finale could even be a high point of the otherwise bad show and still be worse than any of the ones on the list.

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    3 months ago

    This graph just highlights the problem with popular TV shows that had no real plan for where they would go.

    You do a season, it’s popular, people want more. Eventually your quality declines, people lose interest and they just end weakly, if they even get that rather than abruptly cancelled.

    If we only had one season of Heroes, we’d still be talking about it in the same hushed tones as Firefly, but it didn’t and so we don’t. It’s just another in a long line of shows that started interesting, and quickly became mediocre. For that reason I’m kind of glad Firefly only got one.

    I really don’t want a show that lasts for 10 seasons. That’s a massive time commitment. I want a story in as few episodes as it takes to tell it well. At least have an outline of what’s going to happen, even if you haven’t written it all out in full.

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    How the fuck is Star Vs. The Forces of Evil not on this list?

    Star betrays her own established character and kills billions because of a forced ship.

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        3 months ago

        Tl;dr

        Star gets mad at her mother, screams “It’s not a phase mom! Toffee did nothing wrong.”

        Decides that magic should be destroyed forever because Mewnie’s Queen is too good at it and because Marco is dying from a magical poison. So it is destroyed in every universe because Glossaryck said “Star is the main character so what she wants is morally right.”

        Then he dies because he is a magical creature.

        Star realizes that even though the poison no longer exists, there is no way to see Marco again because the fucking portal network is now gone for good…

        So she uses the last of magic to realize she’s made a horrible mistake and goes back in time to stop herself from destroying magic…

        Naw I’m kidding she actually makes Mewnie crash into the Earth the planets begin to merge, causing cataclysms on both planets that kill many in the process…

        The show pretends this is a happy ending as we see Star’s friends magically survived the merging of the planets thanks to Princess Horsehead (who should be dead as she is a magical creature but consistency is for losers)

        RIP: Spider with a top hat, everyone in the literal afterlife, and the millions of people who Star killed in the cataclysm of Mewnie and Earth merging.

        Funfact: People who would watch a show like what the first two seasons promised are fans of magic existing more than they are of genocide. So this ending was not well liked and I personally do not consider it canon.

        Especially since so many fanworks have Star hanging with Dipper and Luz from Gravity Falls and Owl House who being seekers of the supernatural would never be able to in canon forgive Star for this…

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          That’s… a way to end a show. Now I’m glad I didn’t continue watching it.

          Thanks for the info!

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    I almost threw my phone across the room when I saw Scrubs on this list, but then I saw that they used season 9 as their basis for the “ending,” which, of course, is preposterous.

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    3 months ago

    How is Mythbusters on there? It’s not like there was some kind of plot to follow, loose ends in the storyline, or some kind of contrived plot device to finish everything off.

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      A couple of years after the show originally came to an end, Discovery tried to revive it but with a completely different crew running everything. It was terrible and Discovery ended the revived show after a handful of episodes. That’s why the last few dots on the plot are all way down there, not just the final episode. As the revived show went, the finale wasn’t really any worse (or better) than the others.

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      More on the way! Apparently they’ve renewed two more shows. And supposedly even Michael Hall is in one of them!

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      and the very last episode was just an interview reviewing the best moments, not a bad episode per se, but not worth it of a series finale

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      They changed the format in the last season and did a bunch of smaller myths and the build-team was less involved. They basically knew they weren’t going to do any more, so none of the cast were invested.

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        If you’re referring to Kari, Grant, and Tori they got rid of them completely as I recall.

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          Kari, Tori, and Grant left when they asked for more money and discovery said no. Fuck discovery for running a good thing. Same mother fuckers ruining HBO and warner brothers.

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            Fuck Discovery for ruining a good thing

            A few years ago I was rewatching the Smyths edit of the show and I was wondering if it was ruined or if the show just was a product of its time and couldn’t exist in <modern year>

            I think the internet has turned urban legends on their head. What constitutes a plausible myth has changed. We can just search for a lot of these now (and back then too, but it was less common and there was less stuff online). A lot of new urban legends are floating around now, but I don’t know, a lot of these early episodes tackled timeless schoolyard myths.

            But the point wasn’t always to test the myth, the myth was just a premise to see them build things and blow them up. Even when I remembered the outcome from when I was a kid, I loved rewatching some of these episodes. It was really interesting to see how they set their experiments up as well. Very practical, very “workshop-brained” in the very best way.

            But more than that, I think there’s just no way any network is bankrolling anything like that anymore. My understanding of TV show finance is very limited but I can’t see a modern Mythbusters being profitable, between the insurance and the networks’ unfailing appetite for canceling shows and writing them off, especially expensive shows. Didn’t Netflix make a spiritual successor with the B team only to cancel it, back when Netflix was just blowing up in popularity?

            I firmly believe Mythbusters was made in the best possible era for it. Right when the internet was becoming a part of everyone’s lives but not to an intrusive level. Right when there was enough public interest in educational (well, educational-adjacent) TV and right when it was feasible to make the show.

            Of course I’d like Mythbusters to exist in some form today. Maybe a tiny self-funded operation with its own in-house streaming site. But are there enough 25-40 year old vaguely nerdy types willing to pay for it? Adam Savage’s YouTube just isn’t the same. I appreciate it, but it’s a shadow of the real deal.

            I do really miss seeing the world through the eyes of a kid flipping channels and landing on Jamie Hyneman creating a frozen poultry cannon.

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      The 15th season didn’t include any of the original cast. Not even Adam and Jamie.

      I think the other reply to you may be talking about previous seasons, after the build team left, but that’s not the season that’s being marked as last in the image. I’m a bit iffy on how the seasons are numbered, but I believe the build team was gone for seasons 13 and 14 with just Adam and Jamie hosting, then season 15, the final one, was the one with two completely new hosts.

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    Where is the HIMYM hate? I never had an ending piss on the viewer more than how that train wreck ended. Made essentially 48 hours play over an entire season that meant nothing, and as an extra shocker even the twist meant nothing and only served as a reminder that the whole season meant nothing.