fuck wages as a concept entirely. I want to do things because they need to be done, because they help the people around me, and because I enjoy them

I don’t want people to tell me I’m better than someone else just because I decided to focus on my special interest or fix something that was annoying me or some shit

I don’t want to exist anywhere near any system or ideology where they try and measure and pay “hard work”, I want to freely do shit I want to do without people trying to measure and dissect it and apply it to their own idea of “value”.

I hate it when people refuse to accept help because they feel like they don’t “deserve” it. That just wastes everyone’s time, so stop calling people leeches. The point of mutual aid is building structures that help everyone involved, and if you did that right people “using it” and not “giving back” don’t exist, because using it is “giving back”. Every bit of dependence any of us rip away from the capitalists undermines their power for all of us.

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    Finally, a normal intelligent person. I almost thought they didn’t exist.

    Big exaggeration but oh does it feel good to see someone else type exactly what i have been thinking and saying for years.

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    Your “wants” sounds nice, but let us not forget people work and get paid because someone else need it. Wages/salary what have you, is the abstract representation of how much you’ve helped someone/some company. So in my opinion, wages are one of the emergent mechanics born out of necessity to value someone’s help.

    A post scarcity society like in star trek and the Orville could enable your vision. But for now, its all in fiction.

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    fuck wages as a concept entirely I want to do things because they need to be done, because they help the people around me

    Help yourself first - there’s nothing wrong with it.

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        There’s a reason airlines tell you to secure your own oxygen mask before helping others with theirs '. Being stable yourself puts you in a better position to be helpful.

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          and before that you make sure the other person is on the same page by making sure they help themselves first in case you get knocked out yourself, so you could say it starts with helping them

          or maybe we could just describe it as building social structures that help everyone involved, you know mutual aid like ive been saying. You can do more together. I’m disabled, there is no amount of focusing on myself that will make me stable in this society.

          I am done with this conversation. If anyone wants to focus on working with people to survive, I got links in my bio. If you think you can survive alone go somewhere else.

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            The example given actually relates to children.

            Parents should put their own oxygen mask on before that of their children because you can help them if they pass out but if you pass out your child may pannick and not be able to save you.

            Being a parent and often in charge i am very aware of the help yourself first to help others mentally because we survive on it.

            However none if that is really against your main argument of mutual aid which i very much agree with.

            The economy has formed our schools into molding people for work. I believe everything could be different within a single generation if we shift primarily education to prioritize respect for others and the environment, self-guided exploration and growth. Learning what different people need to flourish working together to build community.