Is it effective? Is it working for you? I don’t see myself running a Lemmy server, but Mastodon I would.
I’m a fan of the users on Mastodon and they seem helpful overall, but the amount of meta discussion is a bit overwhelming. I think I’ll wait to be more active on Mastodon once the threads situation dies down.
Yeah it just seems like a good “fit”. Run your mastodon, and interact with Lemmy via federation. Seems fragile, and it’s not clear how to “upvote” if even possible from Mastodon
need tools to block this onslaught of talk of nothing but twitter and threads
@lockedcasket
Feels the same way on Lemmy concerning Reddit. I’m sure the chatter will die down once more people get accustomed to the new platforms. I just left Reddit myself after 10+ years but Lemmy and Mastodon and learning about the Fediverse has got me excited again!
@NullDrive
Kbin is both. idk how it is server side but the client is pretty great.
I like the client-side interface and really appreciate the ability to follow users but Kbin seems to have some backend issues still. Remember that Kbin is at an extremely early stage of development and really wasn’t ready for mass adoption (it’s a couple of months old!)
I felt like that guy had some reasonable complaints. But in general complaining that you have to setup and configure web server like this… I don’t know. Yes, having a neat docker fast setup is convenient, but you do need a bit of skill at setting stuff up to run a server I think. So, perhaps if he doesn’t want to do some sysadmin work maybe a new beta level piece of software isn’t the best choice and did the right thing by no longer running an instance.
kbin is overall IMO fine, it has a learning curve and is a bit new. Currently most federation issues are resolved or resolvable. To be fair some of them were caused by issues with lemmy (since fixed, but not taken up by all instances) and (cough) a certain lemmy instance in particular blocking kbin in general. This kind of thing is going to make unavoidable federation issues. When I couldn’t connect to lemmy instances properly my messenger processes were restarting all the time. Now? Not “crashing” nearly as much. By crashing, it’s just that when a critical level error happens the process stops, and is reloaded right away. It doesn’t mean they stop and messages are no longer processed.
Having said that the backend and especially server admin panel need work, a lot of work. But, these things are being worked on all the time.
Just my £0.016
I’ve noticed federation with Lemmy seems much quicker after updates to both so that’s a huge step forward. And I fully understand it’s beta software, it was essentially on the stage of just Ernest and his friends using it to test things and suddenly it has 50k users. It’s a miracle it survived at all.
My biggest issue right now is the difficulty finding communities in remote instances. Searching for [email protected] doesn’t work and I’ve heard you’re supposed to paste the entire web adress but that doesn’t seem to work either. Puzzling since it’s so simple on Lemmy.
And while I like the front end the terminology makes no sense to me. I know it’s less important than the backend and whatnot but Magazine, Article, Boost, Favourite, Reduce… They all sound extremely unintuitive to me for what they are: communities with threads you up/downvote. And whatever Boost does. Especially since the microblogging integration means pressing “new post” doesn’t do what you think it does. And trying to pluralize Reduce ends up sounding incredibly awkward since it’s a verb and not a noun. What do you call downvotes? Reductions? Reduces?
My biggest issue right now is the difficulty finding communities in remote instances. Searching for !community doesn’t work and I’ve heard you’re supposed to paste the entire web adress but that doesn’t seem to work either. Puzzling since it’s so simple on Lemmy.
So, if the community is already present (someone has subscribed already) on your kbin instance, when you click magazines it will be there and typing part of the name will filter the list and make it show.
If the community is not yet on your instance, you click the search button at the top of the kbin screen and in that search box type the whole [email protected] and it should find it and auto subscribe you to it. From then on it should be in the list above.
I agree this was less than intuitive and when I first setup my instance I really did wonder why I couldn’t find anything to subscribe to.
In terms of terminology. I think it’s because kbin is trying to place itself as a halfway house between the threadiverse and microblogging. There’s going to be a learning curve and things are constantly changing.
I’m still not seeing it in neither search box. Strange. There also seems to be federation issues with some instances still. I only noticed it because PoppinKREAM migrated to Lemmy (sh.itjust.works instance) but I can’t see any of their comments, posts or user profile on Kbin.social and it’s been a week.
I think the way people interact with microblogs versus comments and posts on a link aggregator are fundamentally different enough that I’m not sure trying to unite them under the same terminology is a great idea. Boost acting like a retweet for the people who follow you is not a bad idea though if that’s how it works, just name it something other than boost so people understand it’s purpose.
And calling single-image memes in a shitpost sub “Articles” in a “Magazine” will never not be bizarre to me.
What were you looking for, I’ll look on mine. The search I am talking about (if not in magazine list) is the magnifying glass at the top right in the area with your user name.
In this case I was looking for the instance feddit.nu since I was trying to sync up subscriptions on the accounts I have. Try [email protected]. Previously I tried [email protected] and it still doesn’t show up no matter what I search for in the top-right magnifying glass next to the username but it has finally appeared in the magazine list now.
Not sure how Kbin is I haven’t tried it
kbin has been all around better for me. i am on kbin.social right now. so i can do both, tje communities and the microblogs (mastadon)
I think it’s a much nicer experience than Lemmy, here’s a link to your thread on kbin: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/147865/Using-Mastdon-to-engage-Lemmy
I’m sure you know this, but for the benefit of folk who don’t: Mastodon is about building your own “algorithm” by simply following the sort of stuff that you’d want to see while scrolling. The important thing to remember is you can follow stuff not just people. Search for a hashtag, for example, and you can follow that as if it were a Twitter user. But to really get the most of it you can expand out and follow other ActivityPub things like Lemmy communities, Pixelfed users/albums, Peertube, etc.
To answer your question: I find following things on mastodon is better for consumption than commenting when it comes to Lemmy/Kbin posts. Commenting directly on the post is easy and you see all the primary replies, but finding replies of replies (and further down) gets tedious fast. But I still follow the Lemmy community for my city and a couple meme heavy ones via my Mastodon account.
Are you using this as a Lemmy user or Mastodon?
I’m currently using my Lemmy account but I have a mas.to account also. Sometimes I like them being seperate, sometimes not.
Mastodon comments are pretty easy to spot because they all tag a user at the beginning of the comment. At least for the moment, anyway.
Ohhh I was wondering why they did that. Thanks.
Ohhh I was wondering why they did that. Thanks.
It seems that using kbin to engage with mastodon and lemmy works a lot better than using mastodon to engage with kbin and lemmy. Can’t speak for using Lemmy for kbin and mastodon.
Edit: on kbin to see microblog type posts from users I have subscribed to I need to go to subscribed (found in the dropdown menu between + and username) and then click the Microblog tab. (If I am already on the microblog tab and select subscribed it will take me over to threads, I need to click back over to microblog. I hope this changes.)
Using Lemmy, I see Kbin posts all the time; but I have yet to see anything from Mastodon.
Here’s a post on Lemmy posted via Mastodon. I on the other hand have had no luck seeing Kbin posts here on Lemmy, but I think it’s just my instance :(
really need tools here to block tags or keywords so the feed isnt all about zucks newest venture or musks next brainfart
