My old Android TV is almost 10 years old and despite ADB modding it shows its age. So I took a look around and quickly found out how bad things have gotten in the Smart TV space.

Dumb TVs are out of the question because of their high prices - they’re for commercial use after all.

What I want is a nice big TV (around 65" to 75") with a real colorful, sharp display and an OS that does not annoy me with ads (I despise ads) and recommendations while still fulfilling my needs, which are

  • Crunchyroll
  • Prime
  • Ad-free Youtube client like smarttubenext
  • HDMI for console gaming
  • Absolutely no stuttering and frame rate issues when playing videos in apps
  • Preferably no stuttering menus
  • Reasonably priced

Anything else is completely uninteresting to me.

And yes, I know about the nvidia shield, but that thing is 5 years old and I don’t want to ride an already old horse that might be replaced very soon due to its age (even though there’s currently no signs of that on the horizon). I also don’t like using more than one remote…

I have no issue with modding it as long as that’s reasonably possible - just to get rid of most bloatware, annoyances, ads and such.

Any ideas?

  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
    35·
    2 months ago

    You could get a “smart tv” but use it as a dumb tv, no internet, no wifi, just have it hooked up to a single input… Then that input could be whatever you want.

    For myself I just cast my livingroom laptop screen; no limitations on what i can watch; I suppose if you wanted something dedicated you could setup a micro computer with a wireless keyboard/mouse combo

    • Dasnap@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 months ago

      Yeah, I kept my TV offline and plugged in an Nvidia Shield I debloated (really you just need to replace the launcher). You can do the same with any Android/Google TV device.

      And if OP is gainst using multiple remotes, you can actually setup modern TV devices to use a single remote. I forget what the protocol is called.

      • Blizzard@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        I did exactly the same but didn’t even have to go through any hustle setting up the launcher. I installed PROJECTIVY launcher and it set everything itself basically.

  • janNatan@lemmy.ml
    14·
    2 months ago

    I bought a mini PC and plugged it into the TV. I use a “wireless mini keyboard with trackpad” to control it. My husband and I have been using it for years. Beelink’s mini Ryzen PCs are quite solid in my experience. I have Linux on mine. Firefox with ublock origin. No ads, like ever.

    • piyuv@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      Connect steam deck and you’ll have pc and console in one! Steam deck dock has usb a port which can connect to keyboards, it runs Linux

      • janNatan@lemmy.ml
        1·
        2 months ago

        Actually, I already do that. I have two two steam deck docks, one in the living room and one in the office. I still like having the dedicated device for streaming though. Especially since I tend to download movies/shows sometimes. Can’t be filling up the steam deck storage with non-games!

        I also sometimes use the deck in handheld mode while my husband watches TV.

        • piyuv@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 months ago

          The solution is to have two steam decks! When one is gaming, the other can be streaming

          You probably realized I love steam deck

  • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
    12·
    2 months ago

    Yeah, smart TV, never connect it to the 'net, get a used shield pro, ADB and side load F Launcher. No ads.

    Shelds remote can control the TV volume and its connected via HDMI and the Shiekd Pro remote switches both off and on. I use Kodi, Prime, Smart Tube Next and a couple local TV apps.

    Not what u want but that’s where I am and it works well.

    Be interested to see the responses

  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
    10·
    2 months ago

    As others have said, the best option is to buy the TV you want, update it to the latest firmware, then disconnect it from the internet and use your own external devices.

    This is because the companies making the best display technology (much of it proprietary) at an affordable price have no incentive to sell “dumb” variants of their TVs when the “smart” version makes them way more money.

  • protokaiser@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 months ago

    Buy the tv that suits your needs and then use a streaming device: Roku, Apple TV, Raspberry Pi, any modern video game console, etc. Back in college an acquaintance worked at Hulu and confirmed that no one works on the smart tv app. This was like 15 years ago, so things may have changed but I’ve never enjoyed the smart tv experienced (always been super slow Ford me).

    • CO5MO ✨@midwest.social
      3·
      2 months ago

      Oh dang! This is cool! I would love to get rid of a few streaming sticks I still use, sadly, and move over to something like this. I mainly use Plex so hopefully that would be an easy switch. Thanks for sharing!

  • kuneho@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 months ago

    Reading your post, all I can think of is to get a decent TV and a small form factor computer, install LibreELEC on it and you have a standalone Kodi box.

    Lots of plugins available (YouTube, I think Crunchyroll too), absolutely no ads, no slowdown, fluent and capable UI. It can be strange that all the plugins use Kodi’s framework, but they all work just fine. Some needs some additional things to do to work, but you really set up your plugins once, and they are good to go. I’m using Kodi for 3-4 years continuously as my main media machine and all the plugins updates regularly. You can play back local or remote media through network share seamlessly. Just get a PC with enough hardware to do 4K video. (I’m watching at max 1080p, but for that, a 3rd generation Intel i5 was more than enough).

  • anivia@lemmy.ml
    6·
    2 months ago

    If you get an Android TV you can modify it to be ad-free and run pretty much every app you need. Sony TVs use Android TV

  • RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    2 months ago

    My ten year old dumb tv died recently. I got a samsung smart tv and just never connected the internet, like everyone is suggesting. I have my playstation and an old laptop with kodi plugged into it. I personally hate smart tvs (even without internet, it’s still more annoying than old tvs) but this works well enough.

    Edit: the Samsung tv remote works with my Playstation, too, and I could probably set it up with my computer but I like using the wireless mouse and keyboard.

  • fleet@lemmy.ca
    4·
    2 months ago

    I just ordered my first TV ever, and its a smart TV of course. My first choice would be to not connect it to the internet, but my wife wouldn’t like that. So i think ill just put it on its own network and block as many domains that it uses to phone home with as i can, without breaking functionality.

  • Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    3·
    2 months ago

    If you are in the US you can buy a Samsung TV not connect it the internet and then installed a Onn Android TV from Walmart. Thats what I do :)

  • anon5621@lemmy.ml
    3·
    2 months ago

    Personally i bought modern samsung and not connecting it to the net for and online services i am still using my android tv box mecool km9 which i debloated also got root access and there possible to install custom firmware like on android phones soo basically much more customization ,u can look at brand mecool, x96 or ugoos.