“This ‘groundbreaking’ AI proposal that they gave us yesterday, they proposed that our background performers should be able to be scanned, get one day’s pay, and their companies should own that scan, their image, their likeness and should be able to use it for the rest of eternity on any project they want, with no consent and no compensation. So if you think that’s a groundbreaking proposal, I suggest you think again.”

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    There may be a group of entertainers i have less sympathy for than actors, but i’d be hard pressed to think who it might be.

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      If these same studio owner types could AI your job away and send you into poverty, they would. And eventually they will. So I’ll stick with the actors on this side, not to mention this is about background actors, who 99% of the time are regular people with regular jobs who use background acting as a side gig, and they want to ai away their jobs.

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          That only works if you get a basic income to supplement the job you lost, otherwise it’s just profit for your boss while you get fucked

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        Because they don’t need more money.

        They need to spend less. It’s not about putting food on the table. It’s about living as lavish a lifestyle as possible to show off in front of your peers.

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          Hmm I think you’re thinking about like the 1% of actors who are rich and famous.

          Most actors are not in that situation. They are just working people like anyone else only their income is precarious like any freelancer.

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            No, I’m thinking about the vast majority of people who live in LA.

            They’re just passing a bunch of money around at the top. As soon as they make more, prices go up and the world’s poorest continue to stagnate.

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              Surely even in LA a lot of the actors are waiters/bit part extras?

              As for world poverty I agree it’s more inportant than better payment for workers in wealthy nations, but I think it’s ok to care about both.

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              I guess I wasn’t one of the vast majority of people who lived in L.A. I was just working crew and occasional actor. My money went to things like rent and food. Weirdly, most of my colleagues were in the same boat.

              Now admittedly, there are millions of people in L.A., but a lot of the ones in the entertainment industry sure as hell weren’t passing money around, we were barely making a living.

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                Yeah, a living in one of the most expensive cities in the world.

                You could be living a cheaper life anywhere else, but you feel entitled to live in LA.

                No sympathy from me. Spread out.

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                  I live in a cheaper place now. Indiana. My quality of life is not especially different. I didn’t feel entitled to live in L.A., I went where I could put my skills to good use. Being paid a low wage in L.A. was a higher wage than a low wage in Indiana, but the cost of living is also higher.

                  Maybe don’t make guesses about how other people live their lives.

                  And let me guess- I shouldn’t have moved to Indiana, I should have moved to Botswana or something if I don’t want to feel “entitled.”

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              OK we get it. You hate actors and anything that gets close to them. Now go hang out in shit posts.

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                No, I don’t hate actors. You clearly don’t get it.

                I keep saying I have no sympathy for greedy people. Globally speaking, most people living in LA are wealthy. They’re just passing that wealth around at the top which is why other places of the world stagnate.

                It’s a cultural issue. You’re just upset someone is criticizing that culture of consumerism.

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                  You’re not making any useful point. Just screaming into the void. I’m not really sure how you don’t see this as turning into a much bigger problem. When Ai is able to synthesis human labor those at the bottom get fucked first.

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                    I’ve been very clear about the points I’m making.

                    Are you arguing we shouldn’t replace labor with robots because humans wouldn’t have to work? Can you see how backwards that is?

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          I might could agree aaa level actors don’t need more money, there’s plenty who do. And not just actors but most everyone who makes the movies and shows we enjoy gets fucked by the producers and studios.

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            I guess the point is that money is being made and when it isn’t going to the people actually involved in productions, it goes straight to studio executives and shareholders, including those same execs. If films are making a lot of money, why should people on certain rungs of the production ladder be working paycheque to paycheque or be being strongarmed in to signing away any hope of future earnings.

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            I don’t really think you know the difference between ‘want’ and ‘need.’

            It’s not like these people are surviving off of peanut butter sandwiches, lol. A lot of them probably think they’re too good to shop at places like Walmart, too.

            No, they get no sympathy from me. Not while children go without food, water, shelter, electricity, and education.

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      I agree.

      I really don’t care for people in LA complaining they don’t have enough money.