This sentiment is so fucking wrong. Please, for god’s sake, please understand that Zuckerberg is NOT the lesser of two evils here. Meta facilitated a genocide by artificially promoting hateful content to boost engagement, quietly and without obvious consent performed behavior experiments on its users, and so much fucking more that the two aforementioned points barely even scratch the surface.
You people are trading being punched in the face with being beaten senselessly with a baseball bat.
Add cambridge analytica as well, it used to be all over the news but now everyone already forgot about it
Don’t you know, that was Facebook, this is Meta which is a completely different company that didn’t do these things /s
So here’s what we do: we let Threads kill Twitter. Then, when Twitter is dead, we kill Threads.
‘we’ = 500k people or so
‘them’= 2 fucking billion people
I don’t know how I feel about that. They both deserve to be treated like cartel criminals. NOTHING LESS.
You gotta realize criminals and street life is the same as the mainstream. Please trust me.
Agreed. Rationalizing one as being the ‘lesser evil’ is basically just shifting the Overton window. Both are evil. Both deserve to lose. If they can make each other lose that would be ideal but if only one wins, we all still lose.
It’s odd to me people think Elon is more evil anyway. He’s definitely louder and stupider but way less responsible for tearing apart the fabric of our society. And some of his projects have been a net positive.
They should both lose to death but if we’re gonna make the comparison, Zuckbot is hands down more evil.
That being said, it will still be hilarious if zucc beats the shit out of Elongated Muskrat.
Agreed, I may have more of a gut level disdain for Elon, but Zucc is clearly way worse because of the way Facebook’s algorithms have harmed society.
Lesser of two evils has never gotten us anything but evil.
this one isn’t even a lesser evil
I would agree, I’m just pointing out the logical flaw.
In fact I’d argue Zuckerberg is worse, if only because he already owns so much of the digital landscape and most people use FB to federate with other stuff.
Elon is meme’d as being the big bad here but in reality he’s running his first website/social media company against a guy who essentially developed the modern model and already owns another massive SM site as well as his new Twitter clone experiment in addition to the foundational website he still possesses.
Greater of two evils also doesn’t seem very successful.
Why use either?
Theres mastodon as a twitter replacement… lol
It’s definitely not worth it. Zuckerberg is the bigger fish here, at least within the social media domain. Meta’s threads replacing Twitter would make them even more powerful than they already are. I don’t like Elon, and it’s crazy that he somehow managed to make Twitter even worse than it was, but we really don’t need Meta to grow even larger.
Yeah exactly. Once the Zucc also reaches out for Tumblr, the last bastion of “Ugh, we don’t want Corpos here”, we’re done. We need to stop both Eloy and Zucc even before that. The Fediverse needs to fight an active war, we’re already living the Cyberpunk Dystopia.
Yeah, if we were still talking about the cage match of be fine watching that weird meat puppet beat musk up, but for social media I think we loose either way.
Why? I hate zuck even more. I hope they both crash & burn.
You don’t need either of them and if you feel that you need this kind of site then mastadon will work fine until you figure out that you don’t
mastodon is too silent :(
That’s probably a good thing. You don’t need to be stimulated constantly with crappy memes and the worst political takes you have ever seen. Smaller platforms usually lead to more meaningful interactions with other users.
Depends on the user tbh. Lurkers who don’t interact that often would prefer if there is more content to endlessly scroll. Can’t blame them for wanting more content even if the quality decreases.
P-please, anything but sitting alone with my thoughts for a while. I just wanna scroll man. That’s all. I don’t have a problem. This is normal. It’s fine. I’m fine. I’m just a lurker man, it doesn’t matter if the content isn’t good. I just wanna scroll.
That’s probably a good thing. You don’t need to be stimulated constantly with crappy memes and the worst political takes you have ever seen. Smaller platforms usually lead to more meaningful interactions with other users.
No, the correct answer is “fuck both of them”. You don’t need Twitter, you definitely don’t need Threads.
You don’t even need Mastodon for that matter. You don’t need a constant drip feed of dopamine. If you need to stay informed, you can just use news sites or something.
Content creators need them though, specially artists.
Tons of artists, specially japanese, are actually moving to mastodon and misskey right now, which is a great sign.
Don’t they just use pixiv or booth or something
You need a more general platform to expand your audience
fair enough. that’s pretty dope ngl
We need discourse. News sites are largely owned by rich men and corporations.
hmm, that’s a fair point. I have heard things about independent journalists making use of platforms like Twitter and Tiktok. I wonder if independent journalists have begun to adopt Mastodon as well, or just decentralized social networks in general, to share their news.
You can’t make real journalism in a few hundred characters or in a 10 sec video. But there are lots of bloggers with their own websites.
Meh, they just end up making it a series of posts / videos. If someone’s risking their life by doing shit like going into an active warzone and using social media to keep the public informed of what’s going on, doesn’t that probably count as “real” journalism, regardless of what online platform they upload to?
That’s like rooting for Himmler to win because you hate Hitler.
I’m losing my mind!!! Ahhhhhhhhh people are so fucking stupid
Do you not know what analogies or metaphors are? Like, you do know that the person you replied to wasn’t comparing either of these men to Hitler or Himmler, right?
The usage of the analogy by definition implies a comparison of some kind.
Otherwise, wny use it?
To exaggerate and make a point? To rile people up and ruffle some feathers? The comparison isn’t between the two of them and the two Nazis, the comparison is between the two of them.
No no no, those are valid, sure, but they wouldn’t be possible without that initial comparison.
The comparison isn’t between the two of them and the two Nazis, the comparison is between the two of them.
There’s the implication that they’re both “evil” or “bad figures”, which is the entire point. The analogy itself wouldn’t be that great otherwise
Yeah, the implication is that their bad or evil, but I don’t really see it as comparing them to the Nazis. They just exaggerated for effect and used the most extreme example of “evil” they could think of to make a point.
At least that how it seemed to me.
I want them both to lose. Twitter dying would be in some ways, a victory for the people. But giving zucky more control over people’s lives is a horrible idea, especially when you take into account meta’s past. But we don’t have much say in what happens there, so we gotta learn to fight back.
Threads is banned in Europe which will probably leave a lot of people sad, if you ask me that’s the perfect opportunity to advertise mastodon and other fediverse projects to your friends, family, etc. Talk about it on bigger platforms if you still have an account on them, engage with posts and videos about the fediverse and how to use it so we can get them into the algorithm. Every little bit helps, we can do this.
I want them both to lose.
I read this one sentence and immediately imagined a Celebrity Deathmatch type scenario where Mark and Elon and beating the shit out of each other, but in the end Jeff Bezos shows up and just drops like Scrooge McDuck’s entire vault on the other two billionaires and claims the victory.
Please put warnings for spoilers
Fuck Elmo but I just don’t want Meta to replace Twitter’s social media niche. I would prefer if Mastodon would be the next “Twitter” but at this point I would be okay with Bluesky too. The Meta cancer is already big enough and has too much influence.
Trading one asshole billionaire for another is a losing game. The only losers are users of these services.
It’s like two giant Mecha robots fighting while a crowd of fans of one or the other are cheering on the ground and being squished.
how about both twitter and threads die and the people win?
But then whose boot do we get to lick?
You can lick my boots. 😉
Are you a trillion dollar conglomerate? Didn’t think so
No. Meta needs to die.
