All of this argues not only for Israeli strikes—which will surely come—but for vigorous American action as well. Israel may well choose to attack economic targets, and in particular the oil industry that keeps Iran’s economy afloat. Attacks on the nuclear program—buried and dispersed at different sites—would probably be more difficult. In either case, Israel will need American help.
Israel has a large and capable air force, including nearly 40 F-35s. But it lacks a large fleet of aerial refueling planes, necessary for long-range strikes, which the United States has in plenty. At the very least, the United States can quietly help supply that deficit. The question is: Should it do more?
Why? It is finally time to cripple the Iranian regime. Iran has a horrible government that does not treat its citizens (especially women) much better than slaves. Those abhorrent people of Iran’s leadership cannot get access to nuclear weapons under any circumstances.
Is it okay to bomb economic infrastructure of a sovereign nation because it doesn’t treat its women with respect? Because that’s a little ironic coming from an American.
Personally I trust the UN report more since I think it has less of a bias than orgs in the US or UK. A lot of accusations of what would amount to genocidal seem to be more conjecture than anything. The UN report paints a picture of an antiterrorism campaign that used mass surveillance and mass detention to achieve its goals. It’s not great but it’s also not genocide.
There are like a dozen happening right now and it’s quite exhausting coming up with plans to help as many as I’m capable of helping.
I feel like this too sometimes. I try to remind myself that I’m just one person and it’s okay if I don’t make much of an impact.
This isn’t about changing the Iranian government or taking nukes away. Neither will happen even in full out war. Just going to be a lot of suffering and dead people. Many if which couldn’t care less about state affairs. When USA inevitably gets sucked into boots on the ground we’ll have another generation of youth either dead or returning with broken bodies achieving yet another Pyrrhic victory for the US. Yet another generations Vietnam.
They might not even be in the top 5 Middle Eastern states for bad treatment of women. American ally Saudi has got to be 1, and most of the Gulf is next.
I mean, they’re theocratic authoritarian shitbirds, don’t get me wrong, but the main reason they’re singled out has nothing to do with that.
It’s wild how western war-mongers will point to restrictive domestic policy as a justification for (seemingly) unlimited violent aggression against them
Like, “look what you made me do! if you weren’t so mean to your citizens I wouldn’t have had to bomb them and destroy their homes and infrastructure!”
As if the US hasn’t overlooked exactly those humanitarian offenses when they funded and armed religious extremists in order to install pro-western governments the world over. It’s the kind of double-speak you read about in science fiction.
Yes i agree. The US should stop all of its support for Ukraine and withdraw from the South China Sea. Now a great war in the Middle East is where it is at.
Deploying all of the US army to occupy Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran will be the greatest strategic decision of the 21st. century.
The 2003 invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq has shown that the US can do it. Also the 20 years in Afghanistan were a great success.
This will be concluded with the last epos of the triology. This time surely it will work in just 6 months and this time surely all of the problems of the Middle East will be solved by the US invading.
Holy fuck this is deranged bloodthirsty shit.
Why? It is finally time to cripple the Iranian regime. Iran has a horrible government that does not treat its citizens (especially women) much better than slaves. Those abhorrent people of Iran’s leadership cannot get access to nuclear weapons under any circumstances.
Is it okay to bomb economic infrastructure of a sovereign nation because it doesn’t treat its women with respect? Because that’s a little ironic coming from an American.
Time to bomb Texas I guess.
I’ll take “how to repeat bad mistakes from recent history” for 500 Jim.
Did you sleep through the past 20 years or are you just not that observant?
There is only one apartheid nation actively committing genocide right now, and they’re the ones with nukes.
China?
Ok, there are two apartheid genocidal regimes, but what else have the Romans ever done for us?
Did the ICJ find China guilty of apartheid? Serious question not sarcastic. I can’t find an ICJ court case that did.
I believe a UN investigation found human rights abuses but nothing that comes close to genocide.
the organisation based the the UK considered it to be a genocide.
There are like a dozen happening right now and it’s quite exhausting coming up with plans to help as many as I’m capable of helping.
Personally I trust the UN report more since I think it has less of a bias than orgs in the US or UK. A lot of accusations of what would amount to genocidal seem to be more conjecture than anything. The UN report paints a picture of an antiterrorism campaign that used mass surveillance and mass detention to achieve its goals. It’s not great but it’s also not genocide.
I feel like this too sometimes. I try to remind myself that I’m just one person and it’s okay if I don’t make much of an impact.
This isn’t about changing the Iranian government or taking nukes away. Neither will happen even in full out war. Just going to be a lot of suffering and dead people. Many if which couldn’t care less about state affairs. When USA inevitably gets sucked into boots on the ground we’ll have another generation of youth either dead or returning with broken bodies achieving yet another Pyrrhic victory for the US. Yet another generations Vietnam.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001–2021)
They might not even be in the top 5 Middle Eastern states for bad treatment of women. American ally Saudi has got to be 1, and most of the Gulf is next.
I mean, they’re theocratic authoritarian shitbirds, don’t get me wrong, but the main reason they’re singled out has nothing to do with that.
It’s wild how western war-mongers will point to restrictive domestic policy as a justification for (seemingly) unlimited violent aggression against them
Like, “look what you made me do! if you weren’t so mean to your citizens I wouldn’t have had to bomb them and destroy their homes and infrastructure!”
As if the US hasn’t overlooked exactly those humanitarian offenses when they funded and armed religious extremists in order to install pro-western governments the world over. It’s the kind of double-speak you read about in science fiction.
Yes i agree. The US should stop all of its support for Ukraine and withdraw from the South China Sea. Now a great war in the Middle East is where it is at.
Deploying all of the US army to occupy Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran will be the greatest strategic decision of the 21st. century.
The 2003 invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq has shown that the US can do it. Also the 20 years in Afghanistan were a great success.
This will be concluded with the last epos of the triology. This time surely it will work in just 6 months and this time surely all of the problems of the Middle East will be solved by the US invading.
But those abhorrent people of Israel’s leadership already having nukes is reason to help commit genocide and escalate a regional war?