• ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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    Hoping things will turn out great is for idiots.

    I agree. Hence this initiative. Nothing will change without action, is this is the action that EU citizens can feasibly take. I’ve written my legislators, and that’s about all I can do in the US, other than spread the word on social media.

    Also: If your only argument is that I am not taking the “Stop Killing Games” movement seriously enough? You don’t have one. Which… is par for the course.

    I wasn’t making that argument at all.

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      I agree. Hence this initiative. Nothing will change without action, is this is the action that EU citizens can feasibly take. I’ve written my legislators, and that’s about all I can do in the US, other than spread the word on social media.

      Relying on favorable interpretations of “reasonably functional” is just begging lobbyists and lawyers to ruin it for everyone.

      Pushing for legislature with specifics that are actually good is how we get precedent.

      “Stop Killing Games” is the former and most of “the movement” is twitch streamers telling their audiences what they want to hear.

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        1 month ago

        The industry has already ruined it for everyone. This is the best plan we’ve got to fix it.

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        Relying on favorable interpretations of “reasonably functional” is just begging lobbyists and lawyers to ruin it for everyone.

        As is explained by Ross in the very video good over this initiative:

        If it’s successful in getting the votes then the EU will base what they do off of expert opinion and consultation. You’re going in with the assumption that it’ll work exactly as it does in the US it seems, which is silly as shit to do

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          Ah, my mistake. I was not aware that lobbyists and special interest groups did not exist in the EU, that only the most qualified of consultants were hired, and that all laws were perfect.

          Again, there is a way to set this up to win and there is a way to set this up for knee jerk reactions and “I trust 420JustBlazeItGaming_XXX because they are advocating on my behalf. I should use their offer code for tv dinners”. This is very much the latter.

          But it is also being done in a way that, should this get enough traction in the demographics that actually matter, it can lead to a lot of bad legislation that will have global implications.

          Instead we see remarks like

          The industry has already ruined it for everyone. This is the best plan we’ve got to fix it.

          That make it clear this is not about actually making beneficial pro-consumer legislature. It is about hurting developers for making “bad” games. And… I can’t imagine any other Movements that might be taking advantage of this. If only we had more Ethics In Games Journalism, am I right?