L’année dernière le sujet a été abordés par @[email protected] et je souhaite relancé l’idée de dé-fédérer de cette instance.
Je navigue depuis quelque temps sans bloquer la moindre instances question de simuler un peu l’expérience de quelqu’un qui rejoint le fediverse via l’instance jlai.lu.
Les posts qui apparaissent dans le fil et le comportement de la plupart des usagers de cette instance pollue tout simplement l’expérience Lemmy.
Même sans parler de possible liens avec CCP, Kremlin etc… je pense que, à mon humble avis, leur comportement et leur façons de brigader et de diffamer une opinion qui ne diverge que d’à peine d’un poil de leur courant de penser, va sincèrement à l’encontre de l’état d’esprit de notre communauté sur cette instance.
Je me suis opposé sans vraiment me prononcer l’année dernière à une dé-fédération (étant donné qu’ils ne sont pas francophone et que j’aime bien le drama inter-instances de temps temps) mais leurs prises de positions en permanence ahurissantes et (en pesant mes mots au maximum) d’une flagrante dissonance cognitive je dois dire que trop c’est trop.
Je pense sincèrement que malgré le fait nos intéractions soit assez minimes avec cette instance je pense que sur le long terme leur influence est nocive et que, dans l’idée de garder une certaines sérénité pour les personnes et futures personnes qui utiliseront cette instance, qu’il y ai une dé-fédération de cette instance de la notre.
Examples? There are literally hundreds across the [email protected] community, the largest anti-tankie community. It documents hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse for purposes such as these.
Here are some examples of Hexbear users and how they interact with the rest of the fediverse and how they treat others:
Denying while simultaneously justifying the genocides perpetrated by the USSR and Mao’s China
Also celebrating the systematic rape of women during the 7th of October massacres
Tankies take pride in being included with neo-nazi websites 8kun and Stormfront
Mourning the death of Hezbollah’s leader, calling him a ‘hero of humanity’
One of the many posts regularly celebrating the 7th of October Massacres
The admins encourage users to manipulate threads and troll using alts
Dehumanising the victims of the 7th of October massacres
Hexbear admins posting and celebrating Stalin
Fantasising about how they want to kill people
Racism towards muslim minorities in China
Celebrating the Twin Towers collapsing
Calls for genocide over Sinwar’s death
Calling for the death of everyone
Regularly calling every user Hitler
Calling the gulags a good thing
Again celebrating the massacre
Telling Jews to return to gulags
Calls for even more genocide
‘Stalin did nothing wrong’
More support of Hamas
Saying Pol Pot was right
Supporting the Taliban
More state execution
Praising Houthis
More racism
Pinkwashing
Here are their threads on Charlie Hebdo and freedom of speech – Note the calls for violence, such as beheadings and calling for ‘another’ Charlie Hebdo massacre
There are hundreds more examples, but you get the gist. These are truly deplorable people.
Closely related are the Lemmy developers themselves.
Here are the Lemmy developers calling transgender people ‘biological men’
And the Lemmy developers Reddit account, where they deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre while also praising the Uyghur Genocide
Denying it quite often, actually
And calling for violence
These trolls have never added anything of substance to any instance and only use your instance so they can harass and troll your own userbase, as evident inside this very thread. It’s not about not seeing their content. It’s more so why would you want to see their content? Does the above, the bigotry, the genocide, the celebration of violence and unending hatred truly have a place on jlai.lu? What does that say to your standards and your user’s wishes?
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]
merci
Thank for thoses links. We will read them thoroughly. :)
I also screenshoted and notified the mod team about Dessaline, one of Lemmy developper team, that participited on this thread by voting.
The Lemmy developers have an obvious bias, and it shows every single time. I don’t trust these people to be developing Lemmy and they certainly shouldn’t be the heads of the project.
Well, if so, we should fork it or migrate to alternative. There is sublinks and piefed. I prefer piefed for its ui and cool design. I will try soon mbin.
There is also iceshrimp, very beautiful but the thread can be messy. Late december they will improve the federation with lemmy. :)