The big financial moments in life used to be marked with a flourish of a pen. Buying a house. A car. Breakfast.

Not anymore. Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express dropped the requirement to sign for charges like restaurant checks in 2018. They don’t look at our scribbles to verify identity or stop fraud. Taps, clicks and electronic signatures took over the heavy lifting for many everyday purchases—and many contracts, loan applications and even Social Security forms. The John Hancock was written off as a relic useful mainly to inflate the value of sports memorabilia.

But signatures didn’t die.

We continue to be asked to sign with ink on paper or using fingers on touch screens at many restaurants, bars and other businesses. And people keep signing card receipts out of habit—even when there is no blank space for it—because it feels weird not to, payment networks and retail groups say.

“Traditions have this odd way of sticking around,” said Doug Kantor, general counsel of the National Association of Convenience Stores.

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    29 days ago

    “We” don’t, outside of America tap is the norm and I’ve made payments up to 1200$ with only a pin entry required. It’s kind of bizarre that if I pay 7 bucks in the US for a pastry and coffee I might need to sign the receipt.

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      29 days ago

      It’s kind of bizarre that if I pay 7 bucks in the US for a pastry and coffee I might need to sign the receipt.

      You half-expect them to pull out the old card-roller and carbon paper at that point.

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      29 days ago

      99% of the time I pay with my phone or tapping my card.

      The only time I end up signing is restauraunt receipts.

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      29 days ago

      Even more American is that the only ones you need to sign are those with Tip lines

      On the other hand, when I travel to Mexico where they use PINs my card asks for a signature because it doesn’t have a PIN

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      29 days ago

      Cool cool so instead of a signature which means nothing you have to put in your secure pin number every time you tap…genius.

      Lol

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        29 days ago

        Nah, I’m only ever prompted for a PIN for large purchases which seems to start for me at ~250 CAD

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        29 days ago

        Anything under €50 doesn’t require a pin. I think it’s going up to 100 soon.

        Also our banking security technology is about 20 years ahead due to a simple ruling that banks are responsible for fraud, not consumers. You can happily share your bank details or put them on your website with no worries

        You have to be reasonably dim or senile to get scammed

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        29 days ago

        No. Tap to pay only requires a PIN for large purchases ($100 or so), or if you turn on the setting to ask for a PIN for small purchases too.

        I’ve only needed to enter my PIN for small purchases when inserting and using debit/EFT@POS functions.

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        29 days ago

        You sound like you’d rather someone can just take your card and swipe where ever they want instead of them having to know a PIN to use it. You’re a genius.