• nitefox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    in the original trilogy billions of people were killed, tortured, enslaved and all of that; in the prequel trilogy, it’s just as bad… Star Wars was never “light hearted”, just silly at times

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      1 year ago

      Would you call the Lion King or Land Before Time “serious” movies? Or, like Star Wars and most children’s movies, are they generally fun but with occasional serious moments?

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        I mean, in Lion King and Land Before Time do:

        • people get slaughtered?
        • limbs get cut?
        • younglings get slayed?
        • there is slavery
        • there is a fascist regime

        If yes, then yes they aren’t light-hearted movies. You consider SW a light hearted movie just cause you haven’t put much of a thought behind what things really are, but SW isn’t light hearted at all lol. Unless, that is, for you that stuff is light hearted, but then I dunno what you may consider not light hearted

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          Almost all of what you’re talking about happens in the prequels, where Lucas tried to make it a more serious thing. Lion King and Land Before Time have way more impactful family deaths. (Admittedly, it’s been dozens of years since I’ve seen Land Before Time.)

          But if you put the same degree of thought into it, most children’s movies aren’t light hearted.

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            How many burning corpses are there in the Lion King? How many of Simba’s friends die on screen? Does anyone get tortured in the Lion King?

            I feel like you need to go back and watch A New Hope again. It’s a lot darker than you seem to be remembering. And empire strikes back is straight up tragic, it isn’t even a little light hearted.

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              How many burning corpses are there in the Lion King? How many of Simba’s friends die on screen? Does anyone get tortured in the Lion King?

              Yet all of this stuff warranted a PG rating because the rating board, like most people, including George Lucas, understood that these were movies for children and that the violence was pretty minimal. "I wasn’t supposed to say this then, or now, but it’s a film for 12-year-olds,” he says. “In the real world … critics … certain fans. They’re not very nice.” https://ew.com/movies/2017/04/13/star-wars-40th-anniversary-celebration/

              Now maybe myself, the ratings board and the writer/director/creator have no idea what constitutes a children’s movie but I’d be surprised.

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        1 year ago

        I’d have no problem with my 5 year old watching the land before time or the lion king (which she’s already seen), but I haven’t let her watch empire or rotj yet because I’m pretty sure they’ll scare her.

        You’re acting like these things are the same but they aren’t.

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          but I haven’t let her watch empire or rotj yet because I’m pretty sure they’ll scare her.

          And this makes it a serious children’s movie? Even George Lucas has explained these are movies for 12 year olds.

          "I wasn’t supposed to say this then, or now, but it’s a film for 12-year-olds,” he says. “In the real world … critics … certain fans. They’re not very nice.”

          https://ew.com/movies/2017/04/13/star-wars-40th-anniversary-celebration/

          I really don’t get why people are refusing to admit that these are children’s movies.