• dustyData@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Way to put an uncrossable bar. Most of Europe are parliamentary democracies for which the ideological alignment of the individual leadership is irrelevant. What you have to look at is at the policy and law that those leaders are mandated to enact, and most of them will include socialist policies, even if they’re not braindead propagandizing it as socialism like lemmygrad would like them to.

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        Way to put an uncrossable bar.

        if picking just 10 countries (out of over 40) that actually mostly vote socialist is too high a bar for a group of ‘mostly socialist’ countries to clear, the bar is not the problem

        Most of Europe are parliamentary democracies for which the ideological alignment of the individual leadership is irrelevant.

        personally i think that the ideological alignment of a countrys elected leaders, and by extension their voters, is pretty relevant to a discussion about the ideological alignment of a country

        personally i think that judging whether something is socialist based on whether it enacts -some- socialist policies as opposed to whether it is socialist is inane

        if they’re not braindead propagandizing it as socialism like lemmygrad would like them to.

        1. can you explain what braindead propagandizing socialist policies as socialist actually means
        2. can you explain why european elected officials do not propagandize socialist policies as socialist?