No amount of alcohol, including red wine, is good for the heart, according to a policy brief from the World Heart Federation. Drinking, even in moderation, increases the risk for such heart-related...
I mean, it says what happened right there in the article, and no the problem wasn’t “corporate media telling yuppies” anything. In reality, people of lower socioeconomic status are more likely to develop an alcohol use disorder and to suffer serious health consequences from alcohol use, and blaming “yuppies” does a disservice to anyone who needs to hear this message.
One reason for the shift is that researchers now know that there were some procedural flaws in past research, says Dr. Manson. Past studies often compared people who drank alcohol against a mixed group of nondrinkers. Although some of the people in the nondrinking group never drank alcohol, some had stopped drinking because they were recovering from alcohol use disorders and had been heavy drinkers for years before they quit. Others had given up alcohol because of health problems, such as heart disease or diabetes, or because they were taking medications that interacted with alcohol, says Dr. Manson.
“When studies excluded former drinkers and people with underlying health problems, they didn’t show the same alcohol-related cardiovascular benefits,” says Dr. Manson.
In addition, the WHF noted that much of the past research on alcohol and heart health consisted of observational studies — not the more reliable randomized controlled trials. When randomized trials were conducted, they failed to find a heart benefit from drinking alcohol. Also, some of the most favorable effects of alcohol had been found in studies paid for by the alcohol industry, which raised the potential of bias.
None of what you said really dismisses what I said about affluent credulous people additionally buying into the wondrous health benefits of their developing wine habits.
You’re trying to take a potshot at wealthy people about a problem that pervades all of humanity, and it’s just falling flat. This is a science community, contrived potshots are better suited to your home instance
You’re doing the equivalent of that “all lives matter” overreaction toward Black Lives Matter. The widdle smol bean wine snobs will be just fine without you being weird and defensive about them.
contrived potshots are better suited to your home instance
You seriously don’t realize you’re on a science instance. I would definitely support mander defederating from hexbear if this is what y’all have to offer
You seriously don’t realize you’re on a science instance.
You’re continuing to wander off topic to be very mad at me.
In a science instance.
Because I mentioned a consequence that did affect a group of people that were exposed to decades of “wine is good for you, actually” junk science on television news.
I would definitely support mander defederating from hexbear if this is what y’all have to offer
And you continue drifting off topic to be very mad at Hexbear. Totally scientifically and on topic.
You’re continuing to wander off topic to be very mad at me
This is not the case, but over time it’s become apparent this is what hexbear users do repeatedly: gaslight and troll because they thrive off the perception of “triggering” people. I realize this is not a serious conversation, because you’re just going to keep accusing me of doing everything you’re doing. I hope you’re able to get a good night’s sleep tonight and wake up in a better place tomorrow
over time it’s become apparent this is what hexbear users do repeatedly: gaslight and troll because they thrive off the perception of “triggering” people.
contrived potshots are better suited to your home instance
You seem to be making your own locally sourced contrived potshots and have contributed nothing to this thread so far but those.
but over time it’s become apparent this is what hexbear users do repeatedly: gaslight and troll because they thrive off the perception of “triggering” people. I realize this is not a serious conversation, because you’re just going to keep accusing me of doing everything you’re doing. I hope you’re able to get a good night’s sleep tonight and wake up in a better place tomorrow
So much science in side of this comment chain so far from you. Are you trying to win a scientific last word game?
I have more than one relative that have “treated” suspected heart attacks with alcohol. While their reasoning isn’t the worst since it interferes with clotting, I’d have a heart attack myself if I tried to convince them that alcohol isn’t good for your heart.
But according to the very nonpolitical and very scientific reply I got further down in this comment chain, I’m blaming yuppies for… being yuppies and buying into junk science. Yes, I did do that. How dare I!
The most bizarre thing about that exchange is that they immediately went into talking about addiction when the entire point of the article was that you don’t have to be an addict or heavy drinker to harm yourself with alcohol.
That’s why I suspected a wine snob with the wine snobby belief that they’re special and that their alcohol treat doesn’t count. I know that type offline too.
Decades of corporate media telling yuppies that wine was good for them has had lasting consequences.
I mean, it says what happened right there in the article, and no the problem wasn’t “corporate media telling yuppies” anything. In reality, people of lower socioeconomic status are more likely to develop an alcohol use disorder and to suffer serious health consequences from alcohol use, and blaming “yuppies” does a disservice to anyone who needs to hear this message.
None of what you said really dismisses what I said about affluent credulous people additionally buying into the wondrous health benefits of their developing wine habits.
You’re trying to take a potshot at wealthy people about a problem that pervades all of humanity, and it’s just falling flat. This is a science community, contrived potshots are better suited to your home instance
You’re doing the equivalent of that “all lives matter” overreaction toward Black Lives Matter. The widdle smol bean wine snobs will be just fine without you being weird and defensive about them.
You say as you take contrived potshots.
You seriously don’t realize you’re on a science instance. I would definitely support mander defederating from hexbear if this is what y’all have to offer
You’re continuing to wander off topic to be very mad at me.
In a science instance.
Because I mentioned a consequence that did affect a group of people that were exposed to decades of “wine is good for you, actually” junk science on television news.
And you continue drifting off topic to be very mad at Hexbear. Totally scientifically and on topic.
This is not the case, but over time it’s become apparent this is what hexbear users do repeatedly: gaslight and troll because they thrive off the perception of “triggering” people. I realize this is not a serious conversation, because you’re just going to keep accusing me of doing everything you’re doing. I hope you’re able to get a good night’s sleep tonight and wake up in a better place tomorrow
“Gaslighting” is not just a synonym for lying (or saying things you don’t like, for that matter)
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You seem to be making your own locally sourced contrived potshots and have contributed nothing to this thread so far but those.
So much science in side of this comment chain so far from you. Are you trying to win a scientific last word game?
Lol
This is, as you say, “cope”
I have more than one relative that have “treated” suspected heart attacks with alcohol. While their reasoning isn’t the worst since it interferes with clotting, I’d have a heart attack myself if I tried to convince them that alcohol isn’t good for your heart.
So have I.
But according to the very nonpolitical and very scientific reply I got further down in this comment chain, I’m blaming yuppies for… being yuppies and buying into junk science. Yes, I did do that. How dare I!
I honestly didn’t take the yuppies comment very seriously at first, but the statistics on alcohol consumption by income/education reinforce it so hard.
So much for the Hexbear hater’s very scientific “it’s actually about the poors and their booze, actually” euphoria.
The most bizarre thing about that exchange is that they immediately went into talking about addiction when the entire point of the article was that you don’t have to be an addict or heavy drinker to harm yourself with alcohol.
That’s why I suspected a wine snob with the wine snobby belief that they’re special and that their alcohol treat doesn’t count. I know that type offline too.