• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    “Don’t trust the experts” is really NOT a compelling argument lol, makes me tend to think you got nothing.

    The root of the question is, if she takes a hard stance on Gaza, does she gain more Muslim and Leftist voters than she loses moderates? And will this affect critical swing states?

    Individual poll numbers about Muslims don’t matter without context.

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      21 days ago

      Yeah, again, I don’t know what to tell you. I show you multiple experts like Congressmen, unions, and lobbying groups warning her not to ignore the Palestinian community, you say they’re biased. I give you data from polls suggesting she’s in danger of losing Arab American voters and Michigan, you say they lack context. I guess you want an impossibly detailed study of how many moderate voters she would lose vs. how many progressive voters she could gain by modifying her stance on Gaza, factoring in how their populations’ distribution might affect the Electoral College, conducted by people who’ve never held a political opinion on their lives (or, if you were being honest, people who share your political opinions), but if the results didn’t line up with your worldview, I’m sure you’d find a way to reject that too.

      Anyway, since you’ve offered no evidence that I’m wrong (or any evidence of…anything, actually), and since I just remembered you’re the account that’s constantly getting suspended for toxic behavior, I’ve decided I’ve wasted enough time indulging you. There is ample evidence that Harris is jeopardizing her campaign, especially in Michigan, by refusing to make any gesture towards the Palestinian community. If you want to pretend that’s not true, you do you. I’m not wasting any more time convincing you the sky is blue.

      And, again, for the record, no one is demanding she take a, “hard line,” stance on Gaza. The Uncommitted leaders just asked that they allow a Palestinian to speak at the DNC, or that she meet with them. You know, basic outreach. This bullshit that she can’t be more appealing than Trump on Gaza without alienating everyone else is a false dichotomy you made up to justify your own beliefs.

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        20 days ago

        . I guess you want an impossibly detailed study of how many moderate voters she would lose vs. how many progressive voters she could gain by modifying her stance on Gaza, factoring in how their populations’ distribution might affect the Electoral College

        There are studies like this ALL THE TIME, which you would know if you had actually cared about politics longer than 6 months ago. In fact I can 100% guarantee that the Harris team has seen at least one such study. It’s not “impossibly detailed” lol. It’s one single issue.

        Anyway, since you’ve offered no evidence that I’m wrong

        THAT’S not how anything at all works rofl

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          20 days ago

          There are studies like this ALL THE TIME…In fact I can 100% guarantee that the Harris team has seen at least one such study.

          Show me one or STFU. We’re approaching 24 hours of me presenting evidence to support my point and you going, “no, no, that’s not good enough for me,” while offering no counter evidence or rebuttal. Show me one your, “serious analysts,” or one of the studies they do, “ALL THE TIME,” that says Harris would lose ground by reaching out to the Palestinian community. Otherwise, GTFO of my replies.