• Cleggory@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Most competent and qualified genocider #girlboss 💕. Her form of genocide is much more elegant than her opponent’s.

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      21 days ago

      Cool so I assume you’re voting for Harris then? She obviously is the candidate who would cause less harm to the people of Gaza and Palestinians in general.

      So it’d be pretty dumb to say something like that and then not try to do what you can as an individual to help (by voting for Harris).

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        21 days ago

        You assume correctly! Like you, I am simp-pathetic to upholding the genocidal status quo.

        It’d be pretty dumb not to blame anyone except those that nominated Harris, the best and only possible candidate to beat Trump.

        It would be outright dimwitted to believe any other course of action exists besides voting to show one’s undying loyalty to career politicians who uphold the beautiful and completely non-toxic American status quo.

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          21 days ago

          Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

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            21 days ago

            Circling back to the content of this post, which supposes that Harris has no faults, I suggest and support critical thinking.

            This meme comes from a narrow frame of mind that imagines great differences between foreign policy (where none actually exist) between “sides” and mindlessly upholds a corrupt two party doctrine.

            The idea that democrats are entitled to certain votes emboldened Biden to proclaim African Americans aren’t “black”.

            Take a break from mindlessly accepting a toxic status quo. Stop showing establishment Dems that they are entitled to votes no matter how far right they are on policy.

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              21 days ago

              This is what I asked you:

              Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

              You have answered neither of those things. You just told me how you expected people to think. That was not the question. You brought up actions earlier, not thoughts.

              You don’t actually have any actions for people to take, do you?

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                21 days ago

                You demand hand holding and spoon feeding.

                You would never be a useful ally, but I’m sure you will serve the status quo establishment well.

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                  21 days ago

                  You are correct. Contrarianism does not require allies.

                  Allies are needed for people who have plans of action, something you lack.

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                    He has concepts of a plan lmao

                    Seriously though, fuck the two party system. Vote blue in 2024 and then work to enact ranked choice voting. That’s a start. There are a lot of things we need to change (e.g., gerrymandering, corporate capture, legal bribery, insider trading in Congress) but those things will never happen when both parties maintain the status quo.

                    Yes, both parties. Dems play lip service and then don’t do much outside the norm. (To be fair, Republicans don’t even pay lip service.) We need actually progressive Congresspeople/POTUS in Washington, and that’s not happening without abolishing first past the post.

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              21 days ago

              Firat of all, your claim that the original post says that Harris is perfect/faultless, is obviously false. The original post does not make that claim, it doesn’t even imply it. So that’s a strawman.

              Second, your tone of communication strongly indicates a contrarian “holier-than-though” mindset that is typical for teenagers but also people who never grow out of mental self-indulgence. The lack of any sort of substantive argumentation doesn’t help your case either.

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                The original post doesn’t idealistically describe Harris??

                Your patronizing tone of hypocrisy speaks to an un-loved childhood.

                Your inability to recognize a substantive argument is both a personal failing and a projection of your own “contribution” to this discussion.

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              21 days ago

              Obviously people are thinking a lot harder than you. Why do you think you are the first person to realize that the democratic left is actually the rest of the world’s far right? Everyone figured that out when they were fucking twelve, so stop believing you are some enlightened philosophical or some shit.

              While we here, everyone else has also already realized that third party votes accomplish nothing in the current state of politics. Throw your vote wherever you want, but no party besides rep and dem is getting an electoral so thanks for wasting it. Unless we are all willing to get up, and force the hand of change, that is the reality we all have to live in. Well maybe if you caught up with everyone else you would know that.

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                No one should argue for change unless it’s popular to do so.

                Wow, so this has been the basis of human progress so far?

                Anyone who participates in society would be a hypocrite to make such criticisms right?

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      21 days ago

      Strange how you only complain about her regarding this issue, when drump would 1000 time worse for the Palestinians.

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        21 days ago

        “Her form of genocide is much more elegant than her opponent’s.” I’m not sure where you’re getting that?

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        21 days ago

        Strange how a woman could complain about her abusive partner, when there exists another man who is “1000 times” more abusive. What a selfish and dumb woman.

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            21 days ago

            The famously least democratic voting system? I am aware.

            Google:

            First Past the Post (FPTP) is widely regarded as a minimally democratic system. Here are some key reasons:

            Lack of Proportionality: FPTP fails to accurately represent the popular vote, often resulting in a mismatch between the number of seats won and the percentage of votes received. This leads to a concentration of power among the largest parties, marginalizing smaller parties and independent candidates.
            Wasted Votes: In FPTP systems, many votes are wasted as they do not contribute to the outcome of the election. In the 2024 UK general election, for example, 74% of votes were wasted, meaning that only one in four votes had a decisive impact.
            Tactical Voting: FPTP encourages strategic voting, where voters choose a candidate not because they genuinely support them, but because they think they have a better chance of winning. This undermines the principle of democratic choice and leads to a lack of accountability among elected representatives.
            Limited Representation: FPTP systems often result in a small number of dominant parties, limiting the representation of diverse voices and perspectives. This can exacerbate existing social and economic inequalities.
            Comparative Ranking: According to the Citizen Network’s Global Ranking of Electoral Systems, FPTP is not used by most countries, and even among those that do use it, it is often criticized for its limitations. Many countries have adopted more democratic alternatives, such as Proportional Representation (PR) systems.
            

            In conclusion, while FPTP may seem simple and intuitive, it is widely regarded as a least democratic system due to its lack of proportionality, wasted votes, tactical voting, limited representation, and comparative ranking among electoral systems.

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              21 days ago

              Obviously you don’t seem to understand that it means that either bad is winning or way way worse is winning.

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                Your idea of “winning” is maintaining a status quo of state sponsored genocide with exponentially growing homelessnes.

                Those that suffer the most in America will barely register a difference in their lives either way. Meanwhile you pretend a major distinction exists in a corporate duopoly.

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                    How dumb of me to think the election will not significantly change the lives of almost anyone who is suffering in America and beyond.

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          I didnt infer that and you know it. Strange how you don’t post anything else about being pro-Palestine or raise any other of the myriad of issues they are facing.

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            So the only valid criticisms can come from whoever passes your vaguely defined litmus test of “posting about being pro-Palestine”?

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      I hope people like you are the first people put in the camps if the other one wins because of you.

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        21 days ago

        Imagine hoping for people you disagree with to “be put in camps” while thinking you’re different and better than fascists.

        I hope people like you are the first people put in the camps

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            Good to know the military has failed to screen out individuals who support concentration camps.

            Enjoy what little time you still have before the election.

            You sound like a threat to others.

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              You sound like a potentially radicalized domestic terrorist and an agent of America’s adversaries acting against our national interests, and a threat to national security. Your rhetoric and concepts are indicative of potential compromise by FSB and CCP psychological operations, something which may concern the Federal Bureau of Investigation (if American) or the Central Intelligence Agency (if a foreign national).

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                Go ahead and make a report to the CIA that someone criticized your “dear leader” you cult Kool aid drinker.

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      21 days ago

      Clearly, you’d prefer someone who would attack his own nation’s people. Because obviously, that’s preferable. /s

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        21 days ago

        Attacking friendlies is bad, except when Israel does it?

        reported Israeli military attacks against US military and UN peacekeepers:

        October 11, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two Sri Lankan soldiers and one Indonesian soldier. The Israeli military acknowledged responsibility for the incident.
        October 10, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two members of the peacekeeping force. The UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) reported that Israeli tanks had deliberately fired at and disabled monitoring cameras prior to the attack.
        October 11, 2024: Israeli military struck a UN peacekeeper position in southern Lebanon, wounding two peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”
        October 13, 2024: Israeli tanks forced entry into a UNIFIL position in southern Lebanon, according to the UN. The UNIFIL reported that Israeli forces had destroyed the position’s main gate and forcibly entered the position.
        October 14, 2024: Israeli military attacked a Christian town in northern Lebanon, killing at least 21 people, including civilians and UN peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”