You wanna set up different dev environments and process for every single language you or someone from your team might use? Oh we need documentation and a license for IDEA when we’re doing Java work, and PyCharm when we’re doing Python work, and WebStorm when we’re doing JavaScript work, or we just all use VSCode for everything.
I’ve worked on Java teams, Python Teams, JavaScript Teams, C# teams, and quite frankly, I’ve seen no major benefit to a dedicated IDE for that language vs just configuring VSCode plugins and CLI scripts.
We just have the ultimate license and can use all of the intellij IDEs, but you also can do everything with IDEA and some plugins. And I’m that car you still have the experience of a real IDE and not just a code editor.
Lol “real IDE”. Name the actual day to day feature(s) that makes it “real”. Just saying “you use a little bitch IDE, i use a real IDE” is not an argument.
Much better integrated refactoring support. Much better source code integration support. Much better integrated debugging support. Much better integrated assistive (but not ai) support.
Vscode can do many things IntelliJ can, but not all, and many of them require fiddling with plugins.
Usually, JB is also faster (if your dev machine can run it, but in my experience most devs have beefy machines).
Not my experience. I’ve had the displeasure of having to use Rider at work, and it’s much slower than VSCode, if only for boot times which are a pain in the butt for large projects. You gotta pay for that bloat and feature creep somehow.
And that’s on a Xeon machine.
As for refactoring, yes, Rider has lots of options that don’t work and do half the job. So much so, that I don’t use them at all, because they’re unreliable.
The requirement for Copilot to qualify an IDE is a bit funny. First, VSCode has some support for it, and, secondly, this is super recent, so unless IDEs didn’t exist since last year, I’d say this is not core to the definition of IDE.
It’s not about cheapness, it’s about consistency.
You wanna set up different dev environments and process for every single language you or someone from your team might use? Oh we need documentation and a license for IDEA when we’re doing Java work, and PyCharm when we’re doing Python work, and WebStorm when we’re doing JavaScript work, or we just all use VSCode for everything.
I’ve worked on Java teams, Python Teams, JavaScript Teams, C# teams, and quite frankly, I’ve seen no major benefit to a dedicated IDE for that language vs just configuring VSCode plugins and CLI scripts.
We just have the ultimate license and can use all of the intellij IDEs, but you also can do everything with IDEA and some plugins. And I’m that car you still have the experience of a real IDE and not just a code editor.
Lol “real IDE”. Name the actual day to day feature(s) that makes it “real”. Just saying “you use a little bitch IDE, i use a real IDE” is not an argument.
Much better integrated refactoring support. Much better source code integration support. Much better integrated debugging support. Much better integrated assistive (but not ai) support.
Vscode can do many things IntelliJ can, but not all, and many of them require fiddling with plugins.
Usually, JB is also faster (if your dev machine can run it, but in my experience most devs have beefy machines).
Not my experience. I’ve had the displeasure of having to use Rider at work, and it’s much slower than VSCode, if only for boot times which are a pain in the butt for large projects. You gotta pay for that bloat and feature creep somehow.
And that’s on a Xeon machine.
As for refactoring, yes, Rider has lots of options that don’t work and do half the job. So much so, that I don’t use them at all, because they’re unreliable.
The requirement for Copilot to qualify an IDE is a bit funny. First, VSCode has some support for it, and, secondly, this is super recent, so unless IDEs didn’t exist since last year, I’d say this is not core to the definition of IDE.