At least a dozen mailed ballots were intercepted and cast on the Western Slope before voters received them, according to the Colorado Secretary of State's Office.
@PhilipTheBucket So now we’ve had a couple of these rather amateurish ballot fraud attempts that have been quickly caught and addressed. One has to wonder if this isn’t a concerted effort to further cast doubts on mail ballots. There isn’t enough volume to likely affect election results, but the attempts are making the news and giving republicans talking points.
@Awesomo85 Rephrase: “As long as we have voting, a little voter fraud is acceptable”. Obviously voter fraud is NOT acceptable, but any system that covers 200 million or so potential voters cannot be completely foolproof. Like security systems, the goal is to have so many different safeguards that the number of violations becomes vanishingly small. The fruitless efforts to find any widespread voter fraud to date indicate that we have been successful.
Sorry, the term fraud has no such requirements, nor does the term voter fraud (although you could argue it is not because the practice is not illegal, whereas my counterargument would be it that any system that considers it legal is already questionably not so). Anyway, have fun reaping what you sow, it has been a broken system for decades with no shortage of denialists like you. It’s not going to get fixed when the system is at its worst as it is now.
wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying though. I don’t like the electoral college, but it’s not fraud. I don’t deny any election results. It’s just that words mean things and nobody is lying about how the electoral college works or how gerrymandering works.
The electoral college is in the US Constitution so calling it a wrongful deception is a weird take.
Oh look, here’s another case of totally not voter fraud going on: Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. will appear on battleground ballots despite suspending campaign. I’m sure you’ll be able to pull a very authoritative definition about why this isn’t voter fraud either. Half of their battle is done by people like you. Again, have fun reaping what you sow, and have fun in your “very few instances of voter fraud” America, I just wish the rest of the world wasn’t affected.
Oh shit, I had no idea. Honestly I feel like everything I said was reasonably tame, especially for the internet, and even more so considering who it was directed at.
@PhilipTheBucket So now we’ve had a couple of these rather amateurish ballot fraud attempts that have been quickly caught and addressed. One has to wonder if this isn’t a concerted effort to further cast doubts on mail ballots. There isn’t enough volume to likely affect election results, but the attempts are making the news and giving republicans talking points.
Don’t doubt.
“As long as we have mail in ballots, a little voter fraud is totally acceptable!”
@Awesomo85 Rephrase: “As long as we have voting, a little voter fraud is acceptable”. Obviously voter fraud is NOT acceptable, but any system that covers 200 million or so potential voters cannot be completely foolproof. Like security systems, the goal is to have so many different safeguards that the number of violations becomes vanishingly small. The fruitless efforts to find any widespread voter fraud to date indicate that we have been successful.
And to add, our last couple elections have been the most secure, with the least voter fraud in history.
It’s only on par with the zero reported voter fraud in Russian elections!
I’m sorry, but some of us consider the electoral college and gerrymandering voter fraud.
Fraud involves falsifying documents. The Electoral College and gerrymandering can be unfair, but they are not fraudulent.
Sorry, the term fraud has no such requirements, nor does the term voter fraud (although you could argue it is not because the practice is not illegal, whereas my counterargument would be it that any system that considers it legal is already questionably not so). Anyway, have fun reaping what you sow, it has been a broken system for decades with no shortage of denialists like you. It’s not going to get fixed when the system is at its worst as it is now.
Alright. Here’s the definition pulled from Google
wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying though. I don’t like the electoral college, but it’s not fraud. I don’t deny any election results. It’s just that words mean things and nobody is lying about how the electoral college works or how gerrymandering works.
The electoral college is in the US Constitution so calling it a wrongful deception is a weird take.
Oh look, here’s another case of totally not voter fraud going on: Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. will appear on battleground ballots despite suspending campaign. I’m sure you’ll be able to pull a very authoritative definition about why this isn’t voter fraud either. Half of their battle is done by people like you. Again, have fun reaping what you sow, and have fun in your “very few instances of voter fraud” America, I just wish the rest of the world wasn’t affected.
“Unless the system is entirely perfect and without defects we can’t make reasonable concessions to make voting easier.”
Imagine getting banned for calling a lying fascist a dick waffle or whatever
Mods are an occupying force on Lemmy, resist your rulers
Or something idk no ban pls
Not sure if you’re replying to the right comment? I don’t think I’ve been banned, or am I the fascist in this situation?
You were showing as banned yesterday. I’d check the modlogs, you might have been the center of a modfight.
That’s always fun.
Oh shit, I had no idea. Honestly I feel like everything I said was reasonably tame, especially for the internet, and even more so considering who it was directed at.
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