• Yes_Man@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Mac Mini’s are cool, and I appreciate that Apple has some of the most experienced and talented designers in the world… But they put the power switch on the bottom. You have to lift it up and turn it over to turn it on and off.

    A Mac Mini underside, showing the power button placement.

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      2 hours ago

      The side with the power button is now the top. There is no ports or io on the bottom.

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      10 hours ago

      Remember these are the same engineers who put the Magic Mouse charging port on the bottom, making the mouse unusable while you charge it

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        People treat it like a mistake but not be able to use the mouse while it’s plugged in is the entire point of the design. Right or wrong the Apple designers thought a cord drag was a bad experience and designed to prevent it.

        They probably looked at their target audience and realized there was a certain percentage of folks that would just leave the mouse on the cord 24/7 and wanted to prevent that.

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          People treat it like a mistake, but the Emperor has no clothes and people are catching on.

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          I don’t understand why this is so hard to understand. You’re supposed to stop using the mouse while it is charging, and use the mouse unplugged. That’s the purpose. It’s not a stupid decision, it just prevents some user’s preferred operation of using the mouse while it is charging

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            “it prevents some users’ preferred operation of using the mouse while its charging”

            “It’s not a stupid decision”

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              46 minutes ago

              It’s not a stupid decision, but a stubborn one.

              I’m 100% OK with that; Apple is heavy on design aesthetics. If a user doesn’t like that, they can just use their own preferred mouse - wired or otherwise.

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              I used to buy Macs when I was a teenager and young adult, but finally grew tired of the “my way or the highway” approach to design.

              Windows is guilty of this too, but it’s more subtle, but getting worse all the time with w11.

              Linux has more of a “you break it, you buy it” approach to design lol

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                I’m the reverse. As I get older, all the things I used to consider deal breakers just don’t matter as much. I don’t really care about how upgradable or repairable the device is, I’m just gonna pay Apple for the upgrade and pay them again to fix it. Whenever I have to solve an issue on my gaming PC I get an inch closer to just throwing it out and buying whatever overpriced gaming laptop comes working out of the box.

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        Yeah and I hear they might bring that back lol. Why haven’t there been any wireless mice that use wireless charging? They could include a super thin coil that you could place under any mouse pad. It doesn’t even need to charge fast so heat shouldn’t be an issue. Just trickle charge when it’s not being used.

        Edit: guess I should have searched first. Of course it was Logitech

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        9 hours ago

        Honestly, the mouse charger screams marketing or management. Apple’s brand is partially form over function.

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          It was very likely a designers decision. It forces the use the use case they wanted; wireless mice should be used wirelessly. I would bet they fought marketing and management to get this on the final product.

          Marketing would want the mouse they can advertise as being useable with and wireless. Female ports are easier to mount and manufacture with they have depth to set the socket. So a plug on the front is much cheaper and easier to manufacture.

          The fact the charging cable doesn’t get used in motion means it will last longer and you wouldn’t have people useing fraying cables on the front of their mouse.

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            It’s better for display

            Users aren’t trying before they buy so the display is the most important aspect

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              Users aren’t trying before they buy so the display is the most important aspect

              Trying before you buy is literally the entire point of the apple store

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      10 hours ago

      In case it wasn’t a joke, I imagine it would be high enough for your finger to just poke under it to push the button, like you would a monitor with buttons on the bottom of the screen.

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      The new design seems more lifted, I think it should be fine to fit your finger below there without having to lift it up yourself. At least for most people.

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        3 hours ago

        We used to have racks of these things for automated testing …. And eventually they stop responding, so someone needs to power cycle them. In the computer room. In a rack

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        I bought my iMac in March 2020… since then it’s been powered down maybe half a dozen times (a couple of those were power cuts) and rebooted (outside of macOS updates) maybe ten times.

        It just sits there reliably doing its thing and sucks little juice in power saving so 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        6 hours ago

        This but non-sarcastically. I have a Mac mini and I don’t think I’ve ever touched the power button (except after plugging in of course, but then you’re already fiddling)

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        7 hours ago

        Assuming the desktop takes the same power saving techniques from their laptops, there is no real reason to turn it off.

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      8 hours ago

      The next 900$ monitor stand will attach the monitor at the bottom with the screen facing the desk.

      You need to buy the ar/vr set to see what the screen is displaying.

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      9 hours ago

      At the very least, the keyboard functions for power.

      There is plenty of room on the front for a power button. Should have removed the headphone jack.

      Lol, lmao.