No, I meant Ukraine as a country could surrender.

Well, it just so happens that I care more about people, actual living humans, their lives, and not countries.

I believe kidnapping citizens to fight is basically an express draft.

I believe kidnapping people and sending them to die is kidnapping people and sending them to die.

Not that this conversation matters. Neither of our opinions matter.

Well, that’s true I guess. Like most/all of the “battles” in comments. I just don’t think there is something more I can do to stop Zelensky terrorizing people, other than try to convince randos on the internet to stop supporting his regime :(

Trump will stop support

I sure hope so, this is the only (realistic) outcome where my family and friends and every other Ukrainian survive.

will becomes west Russia

I don’t think so, that’s just a scarecrow the west is using to continue the war.

I’m sure they will be kidnapped off the streets and drafted to go fight another war somewhere

1. Doesn’t happen in Russia on an even remotely similar scale.
2. People in Russia “under Putin’s boot” can always leave the country (and of course go to the greatest country on Earth with the most benevolent leader - Ukraine). People in Ukraine are Zelensky’s slaves.

I’m sure they didn’t treat Ukranians poorly

Well, now Russia definitely does treat us better though. Those who are in the liberated cities are the lucky ones who can freely move around.