Your memes mean nothing to me, you fascist sympathiser.
Cool, none of them care. They’re all gloating. You can judge people all you want, but they won’t do what you want if they have real power over you. You want to make them care? Get power.
In the course of history, what do we know of those who “judged” the people who won? We don’t know much, nor do we care. How about we focus on winning, then it will matter who we judge.
Trump voters won’t care about any of that shit until it impacts them personally. My family is moving from Indiana to Maryland because of this election which is really going to obliterate grandparents’ time around our kids. Sucks for them we refuse to stay in a state that would actively destroy our kids’ education and wellbeing. They can shell out whatever massively inflated airfare it’ll cost them to come visit us in a place we can actually feel safe.
Maryland is wonderful… you’ll love it. I’m working on getting out of the South and back up north to the mid Atlantic
Wait until you’re the grandparent and see how it’s different then, and how would you’d think then
Maybe the grandparents shouldn’t vote to directly harm their own grandchildren, and actively destroy their futures. Just a thought.
Sounds like gramma and grampa voted Trump, so maybe next time they’ll make better choices. It’s too late, of course, but that’s the bed they made.
Yes the warped perscrptive informed from 50 years ago, when you had no choice but to trust the TV and newspapers, not like the world has changed since then.
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It must be easy for the Dems to blame the voters and call them XYZ because it affords them the opportunity of not having to change. If the voters are the problem then you don’t have to do anything different and continue down the same path.
Meaning that if they are ever held accountable, they will say they never voted for Trump and burn anything that could ever indicate so.
People don’t care about any of those things if they can’t feed their families.
All aboard, everyone! Set sail on the S.S. Righteous Indignation…
America is in a tight spot right now. Claiming moral highground does nothing to help the situation.
Can we stop with all this bullshit? Im not even and American and i cant stand the cry anymore. People voted, its democracy, it is what it is, get over it
Cope and seethe.
If you voted for Harris I blame you for overlooking a fucking genocide.
After all, trump supporters are “overlooking fascism” to punish the biden admin for the gaslighting over inflation.
Is Trump planning on helping Palestinians? It always seemed a strange argument to me to use against the Democrats since I’m pretty sure the right would have done the exact same in regards to Israel. Please prove me wrong, I’d love to see a silver lining to this situation.
There fucking isn’t one, and there might never be again.
Trump probably has more allegiance to Putin than he does to Netanyahu’s money, which might mean forcing it to compromise on a compromise. But frankly, I’ve always seen US support of Israel as a means to drive out Russian influence in Israel, whose cooperation has increased the last few decades before becoming clouded with the latest conflict. The conflict with Iran and its proxies might stop, but Palestinians are still getting genocided, if anything with more of a focus.
Are biden/Harris planning on helping the Palestinians when they continue to fund and arm israel in the genocide?
They’re the same.
Exactly! So we agree it shouldn’t be an argument for or against any side, right?
I voted third party, the two parties are materially indifferent when it comes to their support of the working class or their bloodlust for war and supporting genocide.
I don’t give a fuck that trumps gonna be president and I’m a visibly queer woman who’s been perceived and attacked for being “trans” under the Obama admin in a liberal state. I’ve been viciously assaulted for being visibly queer since I was a child in the 90s. The majority of these people don’t scare me. The only ones who actually scare me are the Christian nationalists who wanna turn this country into Christian Iran and the democrats haven’t done a single fucking thing in my entire life to stop them.
Glad voting third party accomplished so much. Now we have Trump in office. So much better than Harris! Now the U.S.A definitely won’t turn into a Christian Iran, as you put it. /s
Would love it if third parties were viable, but we have a First Past the Post system, so unless that changes or we implement a tiered voting system starting at local governments and expanding out to a national level, a third party candidate will never be president.
You’re a traitor.
This level of ignorance and spite is obscene and absolutely terrifying. This person is basically willing to let the whole world burn in the name of preventing a genocide that obviously won’t be prevented but made even worse when the world starts burning. Out of spite.
Absolutely terrifying.
The whole genocide thing is funny because Trump won’t do anything about it either.
The people who chose not to vote for Harris because of it are even bigger idiots than people who voted for Trump.
Palestine and Ukraine is absolutely fucked under Trump, and it’s your fucking fault for helping hand him the presidency. Think before you spew such ignorant bullshit next time.
Yes yes blame voters. Keep doing that. Great strategy. Do not blame the DNC.
We shouldn’t blame Trump voters for the results of their vote? Why not?
Voters (and people who chose not to vote) are to blame. Fuck off.
So you are to blame for a third party not winning?
See how this does not make any sense
“It’s everyone’s fault but my candidate’s and their party for losing!”
“Its everyone else’s fault but my own that I chose the misogynistic racist.”
It wouldn’t have mattered what the dems did. Trump offered the most concessions to the ultra wealthy. Just like when the Democrats win, thats what decides it.
They did not. Less people voted for Trump than before. There are statistically less racists and mysoginists than before. You should be happy right?
That makes no sense.
There were less Trump voters. And even less Harris voters. People do not want right wing garbage. Ask the DNC to stop shoving it in their faces.
I voted third party. Go on and cry about it liberal.
You’re not pushing your candidate to the left after being out to brunch for the past four years and overlooking a genocide, you’re being pulled right and you think you’re “protecting democracy” by voting for a candidate that not a single vote went to in a primary, and “preventing fascism” by funding the israelis in their genocide.
Unless you’re a literal armed radical, you’d be considered just another kind of liberal too.
Did you vote for a misogynistic racist? I thought you’d voted third party and not trump? You seem to have a guilty conscience.
I voted third party. I didn’t vote for the piece of shit orange buffoon, but it’s really telling that the DNC lost this fucking badly to him. They’re not incompetent, no no, the voters are evil scum of the earth!
They don’t realize that by being angry at their fellow man they them away.
Por que no los dos?
It’s day four of Trump being in office and I’ve already been ghosted by dozens of people for the crime of not voting. Because, you know, immigrants who can’t vote are expected to vote too.
Trump isn’t in office until he’s sworn in mid January.
Also simultaneously LOL and I’m really sorry. Those people are not only stupid but not your friends.
Well they’re certainly not now.
Sorry, that’s really hard. I went through a bad friend break up recently that had nothing to do with politics and it sucks ass.
Wait, what, you didn’t vote? GAAHH! Yeah not important at all.
A non citizen CAN’T VOTE!
I voted third party. Cry about it.
That’s what I always choose.
Idk what’s worse: not voting and making your voice useless out of apathy or laziness, or voting third party and making sure your voice means nothing on purpose.
The whole point of a democracy is people speak their minds, is it not?
If you vote third party, your vote is an extension of your true self. If you vote for a potential winner just out of the likeliness they’ll win, is that really “you”?
Same logic if you don’t vote. In Australia, voting is a requirement for all citizens, and it’s disastrous because you end up with people who just don’t care filling up some random candidate’s score, so the outcome doesn’t reflect what people actually want.
If you vote third party, your vote is an extension of your true self.
Your true self is a waste of time.
How did you vote third party if you can’t vote?
Reading comprehension is hard. I’m a US citizen, the original comment I replied to is that of an immigrant who can’t legally vote.
It is so odd and counterproductive to me to take this position. “Vote how I want or Ill hate you because Im a better person than you.” Yeah, that will really bring those votes in by the millions. Instead of acting like a child why not learn about these peoples’ lives and attempt to understand why they voted the way they did? Why did Democrats lose the male vote, the independent vote, half of Latinos, and all 7 swing states? It is ignorant and lazy to call them all the isms, go and actually learn why you lost.
You have a good point that understanding the voter is a good path to figuring out how to fix this in the future.
We still get to judge them for being awful people, because fooled or not, they effectively are
Dig deep enough in any awful begaviour and you can find causes and explanations, but that doesn’t make every behaviour ok
And Harris voters behavior is equally awful, they overlooked a genocide to vote for her to “prevent fascism” and “protect democracy” meanwhile the democrat party doesn’t participate in democracy or we would of had a real primary.
The only two possible outcomes were
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genocide
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genocide plus fascism and other bad shit
By voting third party, you supported the latter.
Sure, killing the two party system is the long term solution, but this particular election was not the time.
By voting third party I SUPPORTED THE THIRD PARTY.
Fuck outta here with your liberal bullshit. Go be mad at the DNC for royally fucking this up.
You supported genocide AND anti democratic behavior (refusing a primary and forcing their unpopular unelected candidate down our throats then chastising us for voting wrong) and you have the FUCKING NERVE to pretend you give a flying fuck about fascism or democracy? Go back to fucking brunch lib.
You could have voted for your next door neighbor too and told yourself you were voting against genocide, but you’d be wrong then too.
You didn’t support the third party’s chances of winning because there was no way that was going to ever happen in this election. Elections aren’t about voting for candidates as much as they are voting for outcomes.
The word liberal is not the insult you think it is.
Liberal is definitely an insult. It means having no morals or ethics or inherent beliefs and just voting blue no matter who, no matter who they genocide. It’s pathetic.
How’s chastising voters for voting wrong working out for you? You ready to lose 2028 too?
If you look at the dictionary definition, it means pretty much exactly the opposite of what you said. Also, the D party is not highly aligned with the definition of liberal, so you’re also wrong about it meaning always voting blue.
Congratulations on pissing your vote away, I guess.
A third outcome would have been to demand the dems not support it by voting uncommitted and talking about it as an issue the voters cared about. Bide/Harris could have changed their mind at any time, and they decided not to. each voter had 1/400 millionth of the choice that Biden Harris had. Dems should blame them for their choices.
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Oh no! I’m shaking in my little boots. Your opinion matters so much, Andrea. For the record though, I’m with you in principal, I just don’t care about your opinion.
Then you should be fair and judge harris in a similar way. For supporting and being a part of genocide.
There’ll be a genocide under Trump too
And it will be far far far worse.
All of these “it’s genocide, it cannot get worse” fools are in for a rude awakening. Assuming they actually give a shit.
If you didn’t vote Harris because of genocide then you’re a fucking moron. Trump is just going to cut Bibi a blank cheque to pave Palestine with bodies and then move on to Iran. Good job choosing the greater of two evils!
But go ahead and pat yourself on the back for staying home.
I absolutely would have judged her in a similar way had she won. But right now, she’s the Vice President, and has zero say (unless its to break a tie in the Senate) on this policy whatsoever.
So why would I judge her for “supporting and being part of a genocide”? See how this works? You elect her first, then you pressure her to do the thing that you know for certain the other guy will never do.
I’m judging the Trump voters, but I’m judging the Harris voters, too. You would think that support of genocide would be a deal-breaker for Democrats, but apparently not.
Right, because there was a real solution we just never noticed!
Yes, exactly.
Feel free to elaborate. It seems that no one thinks you’re talking about anything of any substance. Prove us wrong.
We just saw what splitting the dems does.
Yup. Morons who didn’t vote for Harris “because genocide” now get to watch Trump cut Bibi a blank cheque. Genocide will accelerate. Good job, morons.
Harris split the dems so she could take AIPAC cash, and here we all are. Give credit where its due.
Do you really think Trump cares about Gaza let alone anyone?
Israel buys a couple hundred million of dtj stock and they can do whatever they want, that’s how it works now.
Oh, I wasn’t defending Trump. He’s terrible, too.
You were defending Trump implicitly though.
And you voted for him implicitly when you stayed home.
And before the “wah that’s not how it works” reply: yes it is.
I didn’t stay home. I voted for Jill Stein.
So as they are being killed, they can think “well, zarkanian didn’t vote for the choice that might have improved my chances of not being killed, but at least it was a principled wrong choice”
Stein had huge support among Palestinian-Americans. She was the one that they were asking people to vote for. She was endorsed by several Arab-American organizations. This is because she was the only anti-genocide candidate on enough ballots to win.
Why would they want me to vote for the administration that is not only funding their genocide, but has promised to never stop funding it?
They may have preferred the outcome where she won but that was never going to happen no matter how you voted. The possibility that your vote was the difference between Trump and Harris, on the other hand, was within the realm of possibility.
We need ranked choice voting. But at the moment we don’t have it.
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