• xrtxn@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Yes absolutely I don’t support people dying so I must be a russian supporter.

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        People are dying because of Russia. As soon as Russia goes home with you, people stop dying.

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          War should not be an option. People are dying because two idiots won’t give up. No country should support either side.

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            And yet, Russia has invaded another sovereign state. You are suggesting that there should be no response to that, that Russian soldiers should be left alone to do whatever they want within the borders of Ukraine.

            I hope someone breaks into your house with a gun and starts threatening you with it, just to give you the opportunity to follow your principles and not call the police.

            Seriously, go home Russian propaganda. You’re not even good at it.

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              So you do support people dying? That’s insane. I will never understand people like you.

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                So you’re in favor of Ukraine just laying down and letting Russia do whatever they want?

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                Are you daft? I support people defending their sovereign nation against invasion, and defending themselves against being killed by invaders.

                When the aforementioned gun-toting invader breaks into your house, what is your response? Shrug your shoulders and leave, just give up your house and possessions therein? Where will you live? What will you eat?

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                  I will definitely not shoot him lmao. What is the police for? Do you really think ukraine’s only option is to keep sacrificing thousands of people? How naive.

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                    Go on, tell us what your other option is. Just let the invading army genocide you, right? Don’t resist. Don’t fight back. Cease to exist at the hands of Russian imperialism.

                    Please, explain it to us why you support Russian genocide.

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                    What is the police for?

                    To remove the intruder from your home. With force if necessary.

                    Go home, Russian propaganda.

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            You know, if someone is trying to kill you, you don’t have to let them. You’re allowed to take any necessary actions to defend yourself, up to and including killing them.

            In this metaphor, Russia is trying to “kill” (take over) Ukraine. Everyone including me would love it if they stopped, because war is in fact bad, but as long as they don’t, Ukraine is acting in self defense, and thus supporting them is morally justified.

            You would have a point if they’d both been pointlessly agitating against each other for ages. But in cases where both sides are not morally equal, arguing that they are runs cover for those in the wrong. That’s what you’re doing.

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            So you think Russia should win and be able to do whatever they want to the Ukrainian civilians in the future? Especially those who not meekly accept this? Resulting in bloody crackdowns just as they do to their own citizens?

            And then of course in a few years they just go and invade the next country like Moldavia and you then again think everyone should just stop fighting, resulting in Russia to win again?

            That would be the result of you naive approach to Russia’s continuing aggressive imperialistic expansion!

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            They only think in binary choices. Us versus them. They want the false dichotomy because it’s easier. The thought that both sides are bad can’t even enter the conversation.