In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • refalo@programming.dev
    1425·
    18 hours ago

    I find it disappointing that people interested in privacy would have such little respect for a private individual’s right to have their own thoughts.

    Ding ding ding.

    It seems the vast majority of people do NOT want to allow speech they don’t like, no matter the consequences. That requires too much forward thinking. Excuse me while I watch history repeat itself…

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works
      16·
      13 hours ago

      Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. Nobody here is silencing speech, we are just exercising our right to free association by not doing business with Nazi sympathizers.

    • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
      122·
      15 hours ago

      I don’t wanna give money to people who would hate me for who I am

      Then you don’t really like free speech!

      Ok bud. I’m not gonna weigh in with my actual opinion on the matter being discussed, I just wanted to point out that you’ve taken a few too many steps with that assumption lol

        • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
          11·
          3 hours ago

          I don’t know anything about you, but for the sake of argument, imagine you’re part of a marginalized group. Now, imagine that you use a product. The owner of said product has openly stated that they hate your very existence because you’re part of that marginalized group. You have decided that this is a good reason to stop giving them your money.

          When does free speech come into this? How does one person’s money/profit affect another’s right to speak? It doesn’t. Choosing where you spend your money is you utilizing your freedom to express yourself via your wallet, just the same as they chose to express themself via words. Both the objector and the CEO are saying “I disagree with your views on the world and as such no longer desire your business”. Well, maybe the CEO still wants your business.

          • refalo@programming.dev
            2·
            3 hours ago

            owner of said product has openly stated that they hate your very existence

            Of all the things that didn’t happen, this didn’t happen the most.

    • Guttural@jlai.luFrançais
      15·
      18 hours ago

      Oh I want him to be allowed to speak his mind. I just don’t want to give a Trumpet any money, and especially not after their annoucement of a crypto wallet and ventures into AI crap.

      Free speech doesn’t mean I should spend my money there.