In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • winterayars@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    4 hours ago

    I’d still go with proton over Google. Google is also on board with fascism. Maybe not as enthusiastic about it but I’m not sure that’s a difference.

    That said, looking for alternatives may be good.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      3 hours ago

      yeah, totally still on the market, but that’s a move I don’t want to make twice in a row :)

      This whole OH BTW, this service that looked trustworthy is run by an asshole has me considering self-hosting.

      headscale, I won’t even surface stuff I don’t want absolutely public. I’d probably have to do my DNS, smtp, video and image hosting public. Everything else can be extended over private networking to all my devices without giving anyone outside any access.

      I’m capable of hosting my own mail, not sure I’m willing. I need my email to be reliable, but I don’t need it to be fancy. I don’t need a web interface. just Postfix, OpenDKIM, openDMARC, let’s encrypt and POP3/IMAP, DNS and maybe spamassassin.

      Nextcloud, base filestore, contacts, calendar, syncs with android. Honestly as a drive replacement, Nextcloud is slow as balls and wants to injest my FS data into a data/meta base . I’d probably use Synching and just go full-ass Dropbox style on my storage.

      Vaultwarden, 2fa, password storage, I’m perfectly happy with Bitwarden, but if I’m going to have personal servers, monitoring and alarms, let’s go whole hog

      2nd copy of Vaultwarden, this one is public-facing and is just there for Vaultwarden to send.

      gluetun, maybe. Could pair it with any generic provider like PIA. This would be mainly for torrents.

      Peertube, public, but unfederated. Host my own random videos for links to the fam.

      Immich, same but for pictures

      matrix, would be nice to have my own branded chat, though signal is still damn good. but if something ever happens to it…

      gather all logs together in ELK

      Monitor with Graphana and Uptime Kuma.

      Alerts via ntfy

      Backups would script app shutdown, db export and turn the services back up. Syncthing would go encrypted directly back to my house.

      Do all these in docker. Stand up two cheap boxes in Hetzner or something, Run K8S so if something explodes it would just come back up.