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    12 hours ago

    Saying that the Chinese government censors news from their citizens and attempts to spread propaganda about themselves to the outside world doesn’t make sense to you?

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      12 hours ago

      The point is you’re making an unsourced claim which doesn’t align with the topic of conversation.

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        11 hours ago

        Sucking up to the Chinese like a true tankie. Intellectualism is being able to admit that both the Chinese and US governments are bad actors

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          11 hours ago

          True intellectualism is doing proper investigation before speaking. How many ordinary Chinese people have you talked to? Have you visited China?

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            11 hours ago

            I don’t think i need to have done any of those things to make assertions about China. Saying that China doesn’t engage in propaganda spreading and censorship is peak naivety. You know you can be a communist while also criticizing its model example right?

            Hell, I’ve conversed with some of the most ardent communists on here, and even they concede China engages in censorship and propaganda spreading

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              Saying that they do propaganda and censorship as like a “you can’t trust them” justification is ridiculous though. Literally all states do those things, and non-state solutions don’t work, as has been repeatedly demonstrated.

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                10 hours ago

                If that’s your stance, then i can also say the same thing about the US:

                “Saying the US does propaganda and censorship as like a ‘you can’t trust them’ justification is ridiculous though”.

                That’s your argument now used to support my stance.

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                    9 hours ago

                    You never outlined why you think the US is untrustworthy. I am however saying that regardless of the facts, China is just as untrustworthy if not more so.