• Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Criticism of American imperialism is an international sport at this point, where did they get this idea that the US isn’t criticized for this stuff? Have they only watch OAN? Probably a ‘bot’

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      4 days ago

      I’ve since learned that this person doesn’t support Bernie Sanders, AOC, or Zoran Mandami (“I agree with some of his views, but I know where this goes, so I won’t hold my breath.”)

      Tucker Carlson, though? Iconoclast. He’s breaking down Western narratives. The Fox News system doesn’t change you… you change the system. Apparently.

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          3 days ago

          Yeah, I think getting their take on genuine and popular left-wing figures in the US is a pretty reliable litmus test for whether they’re Putinbots.

          PSL? Green Party? Other people with massive significant caveats and also no chance of winning? Full support. They’re the ones on the right side of history. Way better than Democrats, they’ve got my vote.

          Bernie Sanders? Mandami? AOC? Naw, they’ve got caveats. Fuck 'em.

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    5 days ago

    I always wonder how these people are able to twist their own thoughts like that. I am sure many truly believe in what they say, just like Putin actually thinks he is the next great person to make Russia great again etc.

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      Conservative media in the United States has the answer: appeal to a person’s base selfishness, repeatedly. You have to do this over the course of years, maybe even decades. But when you convince someone that they are exceptional, they see themselves as the exception. The rules don’t apply to them anymore! This kind of thinking can cross all kinds of boundaries - class boundaries, race boundaries, religious boundaries, educational boundaries.

      You can convince poor people to hate other poor people, minorities to hate other minorities, immigrants to hate other immigrants, workers to hate other workers. You just have to convince your marks that they are special, they deserve their share of the pie, it’s just that everyone else is trying to steal that share of the pie. And that’s not really hard to do, it’s just time-consuming. But it does work.

      I’m reminded of that meme where a businessman holding a plate of 500 cookies saying “careful, you only have 2 cookies, better not let that guy with 1 cookie take them from you!”

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      5 days ago

      You’re assuming these are their own thoughts, and haven’t been paid for with crypto or threats of violence.