Maybe you can explain how I’m misunderstanding it then. My understanding is that the meme is characterizing someone calling for abstention from the US political process as equivalent to telling trans people to kill themselves. Is that incorrect?
No, I understand it, I just don’t think it’s appropriate. It’s extremely tactless, insensitive, and in bad taste.
There’s nothing surprising about tankies disliking a meme about trans suicide.
I guess most the 400.000 - 800.000 Euromaidan protestors were CIA agents in Russias view then?
No, obviously, in the same way it would be ridiculous to claim that every single person who supports separatism is a secret agent for Russia. The claim in both cases is that the movement received foreign support, allowing it to convince more ordinary people to support it than they would have otherwise.
It’s well known that many people in Eastern European countries don’t trust Russia one bit after their experiences in the USSR.
Russia is not the USSR. And most people experienced a decline in quality of life, across every objective metric, following its collapse.
It’s also well known that many people in eastern Ukraine have ethnic, cultural, and family ties to Russia, so it wouldn’t be surprising if a lot of them wanted to have more favorable relations with them. This goes back to when the Soviets transferred the territory to Ukraine in the first place.
Before the war, people weren’t really aware of the situation in Ukraine and there were 100 other problems that seemed more urgent
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Americans don’t actually care about Ukrainians, most people barely knew they existed and couldn’t find the country on the map. The only reason people started caring is because they started being relevant to state interests.
Ultimately this has to be decided by the Ukrainian people.
No it won’t. The Ukrainian people do not have the option to vote on whether or not to accept territorial concessions, because they don’t have a democracy, and even what pretense of democracy they used to have has been suspended due to the war. The Ukrainian state may get to decide that, but that is not the same as the Ukrainian people. You don’t seem to be separating the state’s interests from the people’s interests at all.
This is really inappropriate and you should delete it.
No. That’s why I’m not voting for him or helping him get into power.
Have fun voting for Trump.
So are you not voting Biden, or do you deny the genocide being done to the Palestinians?
The trolley problem is a thought experiment, intentionally contrived to remove any alternatives to the two options. It isn’t applicable to real life.
You’re literally a Trump supporter so I don’t want to hear you accusing me of being “a fascist’s best friend.”
I’m not accusing you of supporting genocide for voting against a fascist, I’m also voting against a fascist. I’m accusing you of supporting genocide for voting for a candidate that supports genocide. There’s nothing “secret” about it, it’s your openly expressed position.
Oh, cool, so you’re not voting for the option that intensifies genocide, right?
Yes, obviously. I’m not voting for either of the options that intensify genocide.
Oh, who am I kidding? You’ll do whatever you can to ensure a Trump victory and the total genocide of Palestinians.
This coming from someone who literally eats babies. See, I can make shit up too.
The democrats aren’t going to coerce me into voting for genocide no matter how many far-right politicians they fund and support to threaten me. After all:
Right, he’s a Biden stan and other Biden stans are attacking him for posting “genocide is bad” with one even calling it a “fascist dogwhistle.”
“Are we the baddies?” moment.
“Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it” - Very Serious Lemmings
“Opposing genocide is when you vote for someone doing a genocide and the harder you post about supporting them the more you oppose it” - Very Serious Lemmings 🤡
It’s very funny to me that you received friendly fire because people on your side saw a simple “genocide is bad” meme and just assumed it was about them. You’d think that would lead to introspection but what do I know lol.
I’m literally right here interacting on that exact topic right now. I’ve seen plenty of discussions from the people mentioned about the topic and newsflash, they don’t say that. Y’all just would much prefer to pass around rumors and dismissive charicatures rather than investigating what we actually believe.
Trump attacks the military. He denigrates the Justice Department and judges. He belittles the FBI and the CIA.
Stop trying to convince me to vote for Trump, it’s not going to happen.
You want trans people to kill themselves, understood. Fuck off, fascist.