Seems likely that Russia is behind p2025

Voters were very clear that they would consider it a betrayal to primary instead of replacing Biden with the Vice President since that is the job of a vice president.

Trump says way more crazy shit than Biden and he won. Matter of fact Trump lost by a lot in 2020, if he were to follow the same strategy as leftists he would’ve quit before trying again in 2024.

All politicians and forms of government are susceptible to corruption. Just look at Fetterman and Sinema. Just because someone claims to be progressive doesn’t mean they won’t help the billionaire class or fascists.

I saw that town hall on Fox News with Bernie. The people in the audience were asking about what he was going to do to fix climate change and a lot of subjects that Republicans deny even exists. That audience wasn’t Republican don’t lie to yourself.

Bill Clinton won two consecutive terms.

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and lost because of Russian election interference.

Biden won.

Harris lost because of inflation caused by post covid supply chain problems, according to the polls.

Ignoring the fact that voters chose the furthest option to the right give the next election to the GOP, if there is another election.

Just because what you’re saying on lemmy gets upvotes doesn’t mean it would get votes irl.

Popular opinions on lemmy are the exact opposite of what voters vote for.

There was recently a post here on lemmy that proposed AOC running for president and the top voted comment was that she would lose. Even here on lemmy enough people are aware of the leftists echo chamber and how detached it is from reality.

AOC and Bernie stopped in my red state. I went and saw more than half the license plates were from out of state. Those that were from my state were from the one blue county.

We recently had an election between an establishment Republican and a progressive and the progressive lost by a landslide.

Don’t lie to yourself. AOC and Bernie have fans that will travel to see them from other states.

Democrats are trying to stop progressives from throwing the election like they have every time they win a primary.

Progressives can’t even beat other candidates that get funded by AIPAC let alone beat republicans.

Leftists consistently lose elections.

Voters have consistently shown they don’t want to elect leftists.

Centrists have won the majority of elections since the 90s.

AOC and Bernie would lose worse than Harris in a national election. Just like all leftists have.

When voters have chosen the option furthest to the right it is stupid to think that running a candidate further left would do anything but lose.

Voters chose the option furthest right so the government shifted right. This happens every time the left most option isn’t chosen.

Both sides are same /s

I am vegan for the health benefits: avoiding colon cancer, avoiding type 2 diabetes, improved cholesterol , reducing visceral fat, avoiding overeating, longer healthier life, etc.

Not contributing to animal cruelty is a bonus but not my motivation so lab grown meat isn’t going to change the way I eat.

If it becomes efficient enough to reduce greenhouse emissions then that would be the only benefit I would get from it.

When choices are far right and center right, center left and far left voters just stay home.

So you’re saying that Trump is in office because leftists stayed home instead of voting?

And no. Educated people vote left at a much higher rate!

You said Americans are sooo uneducated.

Meaning they won’t vote left.

There’s way more evidence that Americans want far left policies

Not according to the election results.

Problem is that Americans are soooooooo politically uneducated it’s scary

Doesn’t this increase the chances of a leftist losing?

I don’t think we should risk another 4 years with GOP/Trump candidate based on your opinion.

One side is fascist and deporting anyone and everyone, not to mention the coup and anti science that is going to kill so many people. I could go on and on about the differences between them.

Just because rich and powerful people have been successful at controlling our politicians doesn’t mean both parties have the same goals.

All political parties and system are susceptible to corruption.

If nothing but leftists and progressives won every election going forward, some of them would end up being influenced by lobbyist and special interest groups. Whether it be through bribery, gifts, blackmail, threats of violence, promises of more jobs or whatever.

I disagree

So you don’t notice any differences now that Trump is in office?

So if I ask if you are on Trump’s side or Harris’ side you would say both sides are the same…

This is Russia using Tulsi and other politicians they own to dismantle our intelligence from the inside.

Money makes or breaks elections.

I think Dems would’ve lost by much more if they didn’t work with the rich, the military industry, etc.

For example, the progressives that lost their elections because AIPAC funded their opposition.

No, Trump won because of foreign influence primarily from Russia. Also he had help from the billionaire class and the GOP propaganda machine.

Together they were able to tip the scales less than what Trump lost by in 2020.

They accomplished this by convincing democratic voters to either not vote or to vote for Trump.

Remember that time you lost the argument and had to resort to copy/pasting the same comment cause everything you said was proven wrong? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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