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  • This is also pretty common. People tend to think like that about everything they had in their formative years.

    It’s nostalgia plus a realization of how entrenched tech bureocratic processes have penetrated their lives, oftentimes making them worse, not better (many of the improvements are taken for granted).

    But my point is you can take this “old times were better” in most of every case when doing these surveys. About music, TV and everything.

    What people really want are the benefits without some of the cons that they’ve very willingly accepted out of laziness and/or ignorance.

    They’ve lost a ton of privacy and rights and ability to discourse and act by being so heavily surveilled and “panopticon’d” into superficial uniformity of opinion.

    Many of the things they complain about they can still do “non tech/non online” but it requires more effort than pretending that there should be just one way so they don’t have to choose.


  • Just read your post and I get its points. I don’t see how combating one misrepresentation with a misrepresentation of your own improves the situation but at least I get what you’re aiming to respond to now.

    Even if you don’t think it as ideological, there’s some functionality/existencial aspects that make a discussion interesting. Instability and arbitrariness, if there’s a lot of change without consistency and transparency, can lead to only people who value the authority’s opinion.

    In a way I’m trying to decide if in practice instance federation works like “this is my ball, and we’ll do what I say when I say, and you accepted that because it’s federation” or if there’s a more open promise for stability. How much deep the fragmentation will go because of disagreements and how much friction does that cause on the end users when this happens (this is something you talk about when you mention the Identities across instances)

    Maybe it’s less prone to change and can provide more stability but an event like reddits current situation definitely brought about some chaos.

    The mod post about talking with the other instance admins seems like it’s not about animosity but amicably spoken ideological differences but that goes back to my point.

    When something is so exclusive maybe it’ll have to invest extra to not be misunderstood when it’s shared often with a different pitch, using more centralized patterns that are known to “mainstream” social network/forum users.





  • You hold viewpoint A and claim that those that hold viewpoint B do it because they are mad because they don’t get their way instead listening to the actual stated reason, such as OPs.

    I think federation is absolutely interesting but this is definitely a consideration and pretending everyone that raises is “umad” or bad is not compelling. Communities online already have problems of “circlejerk” and extreme uniformity. This could easily foster that even more to a point where there’s really no communities of significance. Just similar things to 20-100 people using a chat medium to share stuff.