for $1, my local gas station will serve me two hotdogs. for a hot, convenient source of calories, it’s unbeatable.

some people’s lifestyles are dependent on convenience foods.

I derailed any possible discussion about “Plants feel pain” before it ever came up

it seems you strongly prefer to attack things I haven’t said than to deal with what I do say

I can’t eat corncobs or stalks. feeding it to cattle so I can eat cheese and beef is a conservation of resources

none of what you said addresses the facts that I raised. you are attacking things I didn’t say and positions I don’t hold.

your badgering me. you need to calm down and be respectful.

when the studies that are being compiled specifically have instructions on them that they are not to be compiled with other studies it is bad science

I’m not your puppet. I’ve answered this sufficiently.

Every time you show up to talk about this paper, you just say it “misuses LCA”

false

LCAs are not transferable between studies, and poore-nemecek ignores this guidance, compiling multiple LCA studies into their “meta-analysis”. it’s bad science.

this paper misuses LCA studies to draw hyperbolic conclusions. it’s bad science.

Here have a look at some frail vegans, while the world burns, mate:

your dunk-brained links to Reddit are not getting clicked

the same crops that feed animals feed people. they eat fodder and industrial waste from the same fields that produce food that people eat. it’s a conservation of resources.

how do you measure crops if not by crop calories?

what I’m reading is that I’m right, and you would like to shift the discussion to land use

Universal suffrage, abolition and gay marriage didn’t just suddenly came out of thin air because corporations and governments decided to become nicer

of course not. it was people advocating for their recognition as fully human

How are the corporations and governments going to change if one person doesn’t commit the first action of doing better and inspiring others to do the same.

didn’t you already try that

I just want people in c/science to stick to scientifically provable claims

this is a science community. it’s reasonable to expect people to provide good science.

you can’t prove that plants don’t have feelings.