Oh man, I feel like eviltoast.org is on the expensive side of things now. There’s less than 20 mau, but I pay close to $400/mo. Not including object storage or hardware running at home.
Realistically this is hosted on hardware I was already renting for other reasons, so actual cost is zero for lemmy itself. I could probably migrate to a small vm for $20/mo and only lose redundancy.
I could be totally wrong but my take on it is that they’re just wanting the community to handle it so they can work on other parts of lemmy. They at least don’t seem like they’re against better mod tools.
day-to-day mod and admin actions on this instance are pretty low. Bigger instances like LW probably would have more reason to complain :D
IMO I don’t think it is something the lemmy devs are focused on, but there is a growing community creating helpful tools around moderation/federation/maintenance. There were some core features added like mods being able to see downvotes to detect mass downvoting, and open issues for things like an invite system.
LemmyAutomod is an example of a community effort. I saw some other similar bots posted too.
It does look like the issue in the previous thread is what caused a few instances to defederate from us. The spam issue was solved, so hopefully we’ll be able to get refederated again to those instances.
The signup application process is now also enabled for new users.
Thanks for the report. This user and several others were banned last night. I’m looking for others as well that may not have been quite as bad.
Please see https://eviltoast.org/post/3963121 - we are now on 0.19.2! Thanks for your patience.
In case anyone is wondering, I’m still holding off on 0.19.1 because of this outgoing federation issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4288
There is an open PR for it that might fix it. Assuming it does, we’ll upgrade once it’s merged in and released.
threads.net is now on the blocked list. Please do leave a comment if you disagree with this decision!
Hello and welcome!
I was holding off on 0.19.0 because of some performance issues other instances were having. It looks like that is probably fixed now though with 0.19.1 released today.
Unless there are any more big issues, it’ll probably happen in the next day or so.
👋 I am leaning towards defederating w/ Threads. Lemmy 0.19.0 does have a feature to block instances at the user level, and I was thinking that might help when we upgrade. But with so many users on threads (compared to lemmy), I don’t think it’d be hard for threads to overwhelm everything.
I’m not even sure what sort of load impact it will have on servers. I can imagine a lot of instances will accidentally ddos themselves just by following stuff on threads.
There isn’t really a thought out stance on it so far.
I know a lot of instances are planning on preemptively blocking or defederating from threads, but I haven’t decided if that’s overkill or not.
I think it depends on if it ever actually happens, and also whether it ends up causing any issues. It probably won’t get blocked by default, but we also don’t want to get defederated and siloed from other instances.
What are your thoughts on it?
By bot account, I just meant an account that’s used by a script but not one anyone actually logs in to. Specifically, this guy: https://eviltoast.org/u/lemmyfollower
It’s one thing I do like about Lemmy so far. If people mark accounts as bots when they’re created, it makes it really easy to just filter out all posts made by bots. In your profile settings, you can turn off posts by bots and everything will be a lot less noisy because a lot of bots are just copying posts from reddit right now.
I left it unchecked sunce I’m not a bot lol.
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I agree. In its current form, it’s somewhat more similar to something like twitter (or mastodon) vs reddit, at least for newer small instances. I doubt they’ll make it so everything gets federated everywhere by default since that’d be pretty bandwidth and disk intensive, but it’d make sense to at least be able to show those historical threads.
https://www.search-lemmy.com is trying to index all lemmy instances. https://github.com/marsara9/lemmy-search/issues/20 is open to track opening those search results inside your home lemmy instance. Maybe lemmy-ui or one of the other frontends will end up integrating with it so that you can search for anything and have it pull the results into the instance you’re using?
You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825
I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.
As far as I’ve seen so far, posts and comments only start showing up from the time you subscribe to a community. When you manually search for a specific community and subscribe to it, I think it does pull the last 20 or so posts, but not the comments for those posts. There’s no backfill or history fetching in lemmy.
The script I’m using to pull in popular communities is the same as searching for each community it finds, so it doesn’t actually subscribe or pull posts either. I might try that for a few days though and see what happens, I’m not sure how much it’d cause the disk or network to explode.
Yup, it’s one of the main downsides so far. There’s not really a good built in way to discover remote communities yet.
There’s the lemmyverse link and a few similar apps that all aggregate communities into one list, using one of those is easiest imo for now.
I think I can finish the script I was working on to import all or most communities so that they show up in the search results, but the subscriber count will still only reflect the local users and not the real count.
firefox
Got it, thanks!
So on lemmy.world, we get:
Firefox@lemmy.ml - 1.48K subscribers
Firefox - 1K subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 752 subscribers
Firefox CSS - 146 subscribers
Firefox Customs@fedia.io - 30 subscribers
Firefox Browser (Linux und Android)@feddit.de - 30 subscribers
FF addons&extensions@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@kbin.social - 3 subscribers
But on eviltoast.org, we only get:
Firefox@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 3 subscribers
The reason the others don’t show up is because nobody on this instance is subscribed to them yet, and haven’t searched explicitly for it. I’m working on a new script that populates the local list of communities from lemmyverse, but I also noticed the data there doesn’t match up with lemmy.world. On https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=firefox&order=posts I don’t even see [email protected] for some reason.
I was only going to automatically add communities with more than 50 posts/comments, but I might lower that too.
If you want to subscribe to something not in the search though, you can still do that by searching for the url of the community like “https://lemmy.world/c/firefoxcss”. You might have to give it a couple seconds and try again, but it should show up.
It’s infra that was already hosting other things. Lemmy got added to it because there were spare resources in the cluster.