That may have been part of the reason, but the theory behind MFA is that there are 3 primary ways to authenticate who you are: what you know (password), what you have (secure one time password generator or hardware token), and what you are (biometrics). Password managers and digital one time password generators have kind of blurred the lines between passwords and one time passwords, but you’re raising your risk a bit if you put them in the same place.

Even if I hosted my own BitWarden vault, I wouldn’t put my passwords and 2 factor tokens in the same place because it’s eliminating the benefits that 2 factor provides if someone somehow manages to get into my vault.

Exactly, from a security perspective, it’s a bad idea to put 2 factor tokens together with your passwords. You effectively eliminate the security benefit that 2 factor provides if you do because if people get into your password manager, they have everything they need to access your accounts. The only people it “helps” having it all in one app are people who don’t understand the purpose of 2 factor and just see it as an inconvenience when services force it on them. Even though I use BitWarden for passwords, I don’t think that I’ll be changing from Aegis to BitWarden’s stand-alone authenticator because Aegis is doing its job nicely.

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It’s pretty low brow humor when I’ve come to expect better from The Onion 🤷

I can understand how insects can sneak by in food products and we’ve all probably found a critter in our salads at some point, but how the hell are they letting rocks getting into the process?

I’m honestly a little torn on this because I generally love The Onion and hate Mitch McConnell, but poking fun at what very likely could be a medical issue seems kind of low.

They could scarcely have worded that title in a way that sounded more sinister.

Well, it’s gonna cause a few more unfortunately, I think, because there are definitely some bugs in 0.18.1-rc.1

We’re getting into an area where religious beliefs are less defined for me than my political beliefs lol. I’ll gladly share my political beliefs on this topic, but I can offer even less assurance of consensus with fellow Satanists on this.

I personally believe in clearly defined free speech zones and I do not believe school should qualify as one. There have to be rules against harassment, hate speech, and proselytizing in places that people have no choice but to be (and the possibility of home schooling or private schooling does not preclude this right because those are not available to all).

Free speech zones should be limited to the public square (public property, parks, sidewalks, etc). There’ve been many debates about whether social media sites should become mandated free speech zones and I personally think that is a really bad idea. We need to be able to choose not to be harassed in our personal areas both in real life and online.

Unfortunately, we have to let bigots be able to speak freely both in their personal spaces and in the public square (within reasonable constraints, no credible threats of violence obviously). They have the right to free speech and all we can do is walk away or drown them out in public.

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Revisiting the whole idea of offense, I think there are really 2 broad categories. There are willfull acts of offense and unintended offense. The first category could be shouting slurs at people, attacking someone’s character, engaging in general emotional bullying, etc. The second could include, for example, offending someone by simply existing and living out one’s life in public (LGBTQIA+ individuals, BIPOC individuals, atheists, and Satanists are a few examples). The first kind of offensiveness is rarely warranted. The second kind is unavoidable for people who want to live normal lives amongst pearl clutching haters. To the haters, I say suck it up.

Previously, I mentioned the tenets should be understood holistically and Tenet VI is a great example to look at:

People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

I think this ties into the topic of offense at least as far as a Satanist is concerned because it encourages us to try to make amends if we offend someone without justification.

So TL/DR on the topic of offense, I believe the tenets encourage us not to do it without a good reason, but also not to encroach on others’ right to offend within reasonable limits.

To be clear, you’re not going to get definitive answers from anyone on canonical meanings for the tenets because they’re open to interpretation. They were written fairly broadly by design to accommodate various worldviews (and likely to be interesting to discuss).

For me, Tenet IV which talks about the freedom of others to offend is not a paradox. You have every right to remove yourself from the company of those who are offending you, but they in turn have the right to be offensive. Now, that is not to say that people who choose to offend are absolved of the consequences of their actions. In our Satanic social circles for example, if people are offensive, they are removed and are free to go be offensive elsewhere. Therefore, the personal choice to offend as a Satanist is one that must be taken deliberately. I see this tenet as a caution against pushing for restrictive free speech in the public square lest we lose our own free speech which may, through no direct intent of our own, offend people like fundamentalist Christians, for example.

Tenet II which is about the struggle for justice has been kicked around a lot in discussions. The other part of the wording that people ponder is the meaning of “prevail”. There are obviously various meanings for both of those words. Justice could be moral justice, social justice, legal justice… I’ve seen some people question if it even means retributive/vigilante justice and I think that’s obviously a bridge too far and incompatible with the rest of the tenets, which are meant to be understood holistically. As far as “prevail” goes, I interpret it to be more of a synonym for “guide” or “inspire” than “supercede”.

My story starts with becoming an atheist about 15 years ago, hearing about TST fighting to put a Baphomet statue on the state capitol grounds in Oklahoma, and then not thinking about them much for the next 9 years except when they’d pop up in the news and I’d laugh my ass off at whatever antics they were engaged in. I legitimately didn’t realize it wasn’t an elaborate troll for a long, long time.

That all changed last year when the draft Dobbs decision to overturn Roe v Wade was leaked. I saw that as a call to action. I went to protests and looked for any organizations I could find that are fighting for reproductive rights. Naturally, atheists on reddit at the time reminded me about the Temple, so I gave it a hard look for the first time ever and realized it was a serious religion. And, not just that, one whose core tenets I agreed with wholeheartedly. I was officially a Satanist by that month’s end and haven’t looked back!

Did I miss the boat on “Chad” becoming a compliment? Lol

Tone policing is classist

Apologies if this is something that you think should be obvious to anyone, but I’m genuinely curious what you mean by “classist” here.

I occasionally encounter assholes from all walks of life and prefer to avoid them all the same. I’m actively in favor of reasonable moderation on social media sites to filter assholes out because it’s better for my mental health.

Nobody’s saying we can’t have differences of opinion and disagreements. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable that we should be expected to engage respectfully or not at all. This is a standard that should be applied equally to all. It’s difficult to do, but we should also strive to hold people we otherwise generally agree with on principle accountable if they’re being aggressive/hostile/antagonistic because, at best, they’re being a bad advocate of our own positions and, at worst, they’re being an asshole.

Maybe the difference is the fact that Dessalines is directly involved in the Lemmy project. Maybe that makes it self promotion in the Apollo dev’s eyes? 🤷