It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

Keep going, might end up having to write a little script to automate keeping you busy :).

Ah yes, now i’m thinking about you all day XD. It’s totally not me coming onto lemmy, seeing i got a notification and seeing you going another round of embarassing yourself :). But keep it up :). This is funny to see :). You’re persistent for sure :).

roflmao XD

You projecting you being upset onto me being upset XD. Yeah, i called you out, and now you’re trying every troll trick you know to weasel out of it and get the last word :).

And if you like being wrong and want to keep proving to me how wrong and childish you are, sounds like a great time :). Keep replying and keep trying all those troll tricks to not feel like you lost a discussion on the internet, i’m sure it’s worth it XD.

I must admit this has become somewhat amusing for me too, seeing which argument you’ll try this time to somewhat save face :).

It was indeed a very short flash not long ago :).

And i’m not at al interested in those products either, but they were hard to miss when that flash happened >_<.

Yeah, i’ve for sure become hostile after you attacking me because i dared to talk about something you didn’t find interesting on a public forum…

Dude, take the loss and stop talking. There is no both sides to this, you were an asshole to me for no reason and now want to keep talking to evade the shame of having been wrong. I’m sorry, you were wrong. Learn from it and let it go.

He just means it’s been all over the tech internet lately, and he has a point.

of course not everyone knows everything, but this and the humane AI pin have been featured everywhere as they’re the first companies bringing llm focused AI products to market, and are generating a lot of hype, get a lot of critical articles, and a lot of youtube videos & investigations regarding them.

Not hearing about the Rabbit R1 when you followed tech news the past month was harder than playing whamagheddon during christmas time. So i get his surprise, and i don’t think his reply was mean spirited, it was hard to avoid hearing about it.

[citation needed]

But yeah, that’s the kind of discussion i’d love to see in more depth :). When would an AI be considered intelligent? It used to be passing the turing test, but now that’s being achieved the goalposts are moving, and that’s maybe for a good reason, but what will be the actual measure :).

Dude, just stop. You’re looking for things that aren’t there. Period.

I find it an interesting question whether it’s intelligent or not, and find it sad people throw out that question together with the rest of the hype. It’s not “my favourite word”, and i’m not projecting my hostility. You just can’t seem to handle someone bringing any bit of nuance to a discussion…

And me projecting hostility XD. yeahhhh… introspection isn’t one of your gifts it seems XD. I’m the one being hostile XD. roflmao XD. I mean just here “your favorite word”… wtf dude, exaggerate much to make yet another pointless jab at me?? I’m not allowed to find this an interesting question without you painting me as someone who fixates on that one thing in the world and makes it sound as if my world revolves around “AI IS INTELLIGENT!!!”… I’m not even convinced it is, but i find it a mighty interesting question that requires more thought than it’s getting.

Sorry for trying to argue something i find interesting on lemmy. I’ll just shut up next time and not try to bring up points you might not find interesting since you seem to take that as a personal offence, while you could have just shut up and let the adults have a nice conversation on the one interesting part of this hype.

Do you always change the topic to try and “win” online discussions? And act so unnecessarily hostile for no reason at all to people who want to have interesting online discussions?

I find the topic of whether it’s intelligence the most interesting part of this. It raises a lot of questions. That the current hype is ridiculous that a lot of the energy expended on it is a complete waste, and that most of the ways AI is used is beyond stupid isn’t even worth talking about, that’s just plain obvious.

That for sure is a problem with all modern bullshit technologies they want to hype in order to get people to use/buy it.

Look at smart tv’s… everyone assumes they’re awesome since they’re smart tv’s, that’s of course better than a regular tv. They’ll of course never mention that this just means that it’s a tv with a 100$ android box embedded that they’ll abuse to try to serve you extra ads, that they’ll not bother to update so your tv becomes obsolete in a couple of years, and that you can achieve the same thing by just buying the android box sepearately and connect that to a regular tv, which won’t make your entire tv become obsolete when the cheap android box doesn’t get updated anymore…

So yeah, i can imagine you have an issue with it being marked as (competent) AI.

Lol, wtf XD

“That doesnt change anything about the current situation even if thats true though.”

Yeah, i assumed me writing “I agree with most of your points” conveyed that. Do you always imagine random things to attack instead of just reading what people actually write?

wtf O_o

I just don’t like people being like “but it’s not real intelligence” while we don’t even know what intelligence is, and we’re thus avoiding the one part of this stupid hype that could be interesting:: philosophical questions about our own intelligence/humanity/…

I agree with most of your points, but i don’t entirely like the “this is not intelligence” line of thought. We don’t even know yet how to define intelligence, and pattern recognition sounds a LOT like what our brains do. The hype is of course ridiculous, and the ways it’s being used is just stupid, but i do think pattern recognition could be a solid basis for whatever we end up considering intelligence.

I find it fascinating that we’re all here on lemmy to be part of a more distributed social media since monopolies obviously come with serious consequences.

And then there are still tons of people who’d prefer nuclear, which usually means some big company having a lot of power on a basic need for society, as if there it suddenly does make sense to want huge companies have all the power.

Regardless of whether nuclear is safe or not, or if the waste is a problem or not, the entire reason you’re on lemmy and not on reddit should be the same reason why you’d prefer solar & wind over nuclear.

Once it becomes too big the forum admin should realize it’s time to make a subsection regarding that topic XD.

Forums for sure aren’t perfect, but a 20 page forum thread that does a deep dive into a topic with a lot of good contributors beats anything i expect to find on discord or lemmy.

Don’t agree with this, there’s a huge difference between a forum and something like lemmy: how what you see is determined. On a forum as long as discussion is happening, a thread stays on top. On a more social media site like this, things only remain relevant a couple of days at most, while forum threads can go on for years. That makes sites like this more focused on short and shallow discussions, where forums imo allow for more in depth discussions.

Without actual examples it’s really hard to tell if the forum was just a toxic environment, or you were the newbie not reading the room. I’ve seen both happen.