If you’re cold they’re cold

To expand on what another poster said, the problem people are seeing with government response is that it was never driven by a desire to accomplish any public health goal, but instead was primarily based on what the Protestant ethos would allow to be proscribed. Oh we actually need people to do things for the economy to stay running? Okay you’re allowed to go and work, but you can’t have any fun.

The only policy available to the us government was based on shame and valorization of work (not workers), so it required that people to forego any pleasure to stop the virus.

As it turns out, morality is not a very good prophylactic.

It’s not bad, it’s ineffective and plays into the opposition messaging, police actions and activism and harms the future of your members.

I think there’s a real difference between saying “go bigger” and respectability politics. That’s why I got out in front of the accusation of respectability politics by saying “go bigger”.

I wasn’t able to find any examples of tone policing in my post. I have investigated myself and found me innocent of all charges.

Everyone involved just got run in. Assuming no one gets it when they check you for outstandings, you’re all in the system now. Immediately grinding up against the carceral state pushes away your people who are willing to protest.

Arrest records are public. Now all these people can be harassed by cops, the israel lobby etc.

Aside from failing the yippie test, blocking the roads is ineffective here. Take an incredibly sympathetic cause like the brutalized palestinian people and demonize it by making people late for work or to pick their kids up in its name.

What does it accomplish? The average highway driver has no way to control American foreign policy. The ceasefire already had majority support. Everyone already knows what’s happening.

Blocking the roads is the most wrong form of demonstration at this point.

In general, blocking the roads like this is the wrong way to protest. It puts you in opposition to people driving (that’s everyone) and only serves to get the word out but only because people are frantically searching “who are these assholes”.

If someone knows all this and still wants to do it, they’re a fed. If they don’t know and want to do this, they’re doing what the feds want.

Before some enterprising poster says this is all respectability politics and tone policing, when you don’t care what people think and need to disrupt traffic, tear the roads up. Literally take hand tools and destroy them. When you got so many people in the march that it spills into the street, that’s great! Don’t make a little pissant line of linked arms across seven lanes, bring a stadium! Wanna show people that it’s normal to do outstanding things because of the insane violence on the tv? Make it normal, with a big crowd! When people see thirty jerks keeping them from buying groceries emblazoned with the cause they’ve been told is wrong and crazy it looks wrong and crazy.

Idc what you think about roads and cars and using protest to disrupt everyday life, if someone in your organization suggests blocking a road they’re either a fed or a useful idiot of feds.

Maybe it’s just the coffee hittin different this morning or that this post was underneath the goblin titty post but my take away here is that our stereotype of molesters and rapists being unattractive social outcasts who have to turn to a coercive dynamic to get human interaction is just dead wrong.

What even causes people to behave like this?

What is this, a usda zone map for ants?

I know your hearts in the right place about this, but android is not better than iOS for privacy.

The only way android can be made decently privacy respecting is through graphene and that requires a very small subset of the ocean of android devices and requires that you give up almost everything that makes a smartphone useful.

The solution to privacy isn’t graphene or android, it’s not using a smartphone at all.

Casual transphobia Friday

Frame carpenters installing doorframes.

Yeah. It’s real good. I wish we were federated with more instances, but thats a process and will take time.

Also if the normal invocation of your program produces more than 3k lines of stdout, sanitize it and default to a file.

Only if your fifteen minute comment recorded during the morning commute is transcribed by the most limited speech to text system possible and put as alt text.

I uh actually agree with you almost entirely. Except at the end I’m like “and that’s why it won’t work as protection”.

Software hasn’t been treated like other fields of engineering and all operators have needed for protection from liability was the twin shields of “nothing I could do” and “I was doing nothing” to come out of any courthouse relatively unscathed.

That type of “aww shucks technocracy” is only possible if you do the bare minimum or nothing at all. Once an operator implements some kind of protection (yes, even one with warning labels all over it), both defenses are rendered unusable.

Now that you’ve done something you’re able to be held liable for the effects of what you’ve done and for knowing there was a problem.

The picture gets even murkier when we look at how things are going! Lawsuits against Tesla for their self driving deaths are making waves not because they impugn the dignity of Americas biggest car manufacturer by market cap but because every judge who sees one raises the biggest eyebrow possible at software engineering not being held to the same standard as any other type, both in a court of law and within its own process.

There’s a good chance that software PEs will become a thing (again?) as a result.

The long and short of it is that because the only reason monsters like moot are able to exist is their sly lethargy and looking at the legal storm rolling into software engineering, having something bolted onto the backend like this would be a bad idea.

I think automated tools like this can be put to use though if they were hosted separately and provided with an api that linked up nicely with some moderation queue standard and returned something like “entries 1,5 and 9 are likely csam” back to the moderator. It would at least save the mod from dealing with the material directly.

So I guess I agree but come to the opposite conclusion.

I think you’re off base here. The utopian socialists were arguing against the methods and outcomes of revolutionary socialism, this person is trying their best to explain that this particular tool has serious legal repercussions within the framework we all live under. Those are pretty different.

The reason I see the logic in their arguments is because there’s longstanding legal precedent for misuse of a tool or material because it’s better than nothing to not be a defense even if there are no other options available.

So if you built a car so big no type of shock absorber could handle it cornering at speed and you knew it, using some amazing whiz bang material for shocks isn’t a defense because even though it’s the best thing you knew it wouldn’t work.

Legally speaking, the right choice there is not to make an excessively dangerous vehicle if you don’t want to be held liable for negligence.

It’s also the argument throughout unsafe at any speed although the courts always seem to side with the automakers 🤔

Or if one were to get sued for hosting csam, using the latest whiz bang ai system for detection wouldn’t be a defense or even a point in your favor because you knew it wasn’t a reasonable use of the underlying technologies. You can’t say “judge, I was relying on the ai csam detector!” When the component parts of the ai csam detector have big “prototype, do not use in production” stickers all over them.

Ultimately while these tools might protect mods and users from having to view csam in the moderation process, that’s just one side of the struggle and on its other side they’re a paper shield at best and proof of negligence at worst.

Lay off. This person is right.

We here at hexbear are concerned about protecting people from seeing csam. That’s good. The rest of lemmy is concerned about that and the very real consequences of csam uploads for the sites, which is getting dropped by hosting and registrar and prosecuted for distributing.

There are already cases where that kind of legal dos attack has worked, there’s even cases of anti csam organizations uploading it to reverse image search sites and then serving them papers when the reverse image search site displays the uploaded image to compare with nonexistent results.

The person you’re replying to isn’t trying to fuck shit up, they’re telling you that this tool won’t actually solve the problem it’s marketed for.

E: edited for clarity and kindness

Oh no, not the constitution!

Stay away fellow hexbears! Let my shrunken corncob shaped corpse be a warning to you all, this poster has the power of the constitution on their side!

Yes! Yes!

Join the struggle, .zip!

Yeah they got pushed to the other big instances when we got ml and ee.

It would be cool to press into one that is pissed about it’s Nazi problem and wants to do something about it (beehaw, maybe blahaj).

it’s always been time to stop using chrome.

ungoogled chromium isnt good enough either. if you want to get away from topics you need to be using firefox or safari based browsers.