Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the existence of extraterrestrial life and the potential involvement of governments in concealing or studying such entities.
Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the existence of extraterrestrial life and the potential involvement of governments in concealing or studying such entities.
All the whistleblowers have testified under oath and were demonstrably employed by the aforementioned organizations. Further disregard would be arrogance. However, it’s less about “aliens” and more about additional forms of non-human intelligence. Essentially, we are facing a new paradigm in physics. This is a positive development.
Basically every time a major government fucks up in a way that looks really bad, they just run “Hey look, Aliens!!” to distract everyone and it works. Every. Single. Time. Like, how many times do they have to “reveal” “evidence” of aliens before people start to catch on…?
The whistleblowers are around in an amount and level of story consistency that makes me think they are grifters.
Roughly estimating, there are about 500 employees from CIA subprograms making such claims. They do so under oath and without significant financial gain. If their employer were to contradict or refute their claims, they could be prosecuted criminally in the US. This is a different quality than before, where witnesses had no connection to government agencies.
Is there a list somewhere? I’ve only heard about a handful, and according to Wikipedia the CIA only employs 21,575, so that would be quite a lot.
The CIA famously doesn’t confirm or deny very much.
I don’t know about a complete list. You also have three sources. First, David Grusch mentions 80 additional witnesses. Then there’s Dr. Steven Greer, who mentions 300 to 500 witnesses in his videos. And then there’s the “To the Stars Academy,” which is said to be purely a CIA affair. I can’t imagine that in the USA you can accuse the CIA of crimes and come from the same place. So, I consider such witnesses to be of higher value. But of course, always with caution. Once CIA, always CIA. So, targeted disinformation is also possible. But the topic has already changed. No more green men, but “there’s something.” Also, how the media in the US report. Once a UFO landing in Las Vegas. Then that in the Mal in Florida. Quite interesting.
Claimed witnesses mean nothing, and I have 3,000 that will back that up. /s
Three sources. That’s what I was thinking, and their stories don’t much up or hold constant very well. It doesn’t matter what their clearance was, anybody can like dirty money (like from a book deal or appearance where they say what enthusiasts want to hear). That’s actually where most spies come from, and so why the CIA exists in the first place.
One can perceive many things stereotypically. However, I don’t think all UFO witnesses are bought or trying to sell books. Many just want to share their story, and in the past, they were often stigmatized and marginalized. However, that’s becoming less and less common.
I mean, I’ve personally seen a UFO more than once. I have no idea what they were - especially the one during a thunderstorm - but I’m pretty sure they were human, just based on who normally builds things like that.
I never had a little green man visit me, and to my knowledge most the cases of that read a lot like someone’s sleep disturbance or episode. The remainder are few enough I do go to lying. If one landed in a crowd in Arizona, I’d give it to you, aliens are here, but they just haven’t.
Our personal beliefs are, of course, important. We defend those as well. I also found it very uncomfortable to have to let go of my scientific worldview. You get laughed at. But the flight characteristics of these things are not compatible with our physics. We need a new one with more dimensions. Then it fits again. And the phenomena have always been there. There are also different actors behind them. So far, I have understood that. I just try to put things together. It is also important to maintain one’s own positivity. On the one hand, there is hardly any contact because the current human thinks very destructively. Then, of course, also recognize critically that not everything that is oversized must be good for one. The US is now looking for a narrative for that, which continues to be practical for them. But there is also the threat of abuse of power.
The government stuff is more about not wanting anyone to feel like they’ll be ridiculed and their career will be over if they talk about seeing things they can’t explain in case that thing turns out to be some new technology developed by other people. And that there might be ways the laws of physics behave to make weird stuff show up that we don’t understand, so studying it could result in improvements to our understanding of physics. There’s no credible evidence of aliens that has been uncovered by any of that.
You can see it in the renaming of UFO to UAP. UFO stands for unidentified flying object and never implied aliens were the ones flying the object. It was changed to unidentified aerial phenomenon because UFO did imply that whatever was seen was flying and an object when it could just be refracted light in some cases, which is neither flying nor an object.
I want to believe but there isn’t a good reason to do so at this point.
And there is non-human intelligence on earth, but outside of humans it’s only used for problem solving, communication, and basic tool use. I’m not even aware of any animal that uses tools to make other tools other than humans and maybe some of the other extinct hominids, which would be a requirement if you’re saying non-human intelligence on earth is capable of creating UAPs. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean.
Naturally, I lack the expertise to explain things fundamentally at the moment. However, when the Pentagon says there’s something we can’t explain, I take that as something real. Now, if hundreds of employees testify under oath that adventurous things are happening in the organization’s basements, I must take that seriously too. A false statement would mean prison for the whistleblower. The elephant is legally in the room, and there is an unresolved phenomenon. Fact. Now, this is obviously heavy stuff, and the following possibilities are on the table: a) real, b) not real, but that would have legal consequences for the whistleblowers, c) a mixture of a and b, i.e., Psyop.
Now, the employees’ statements may be adventurous or not. But the basic message is that things are happening there that cannot be controlled by public authorities in the US. So they are illegal. That’s the point. Ordinary people always think of aliens in such cases. That’s, of course, a cliché like Mickey Mouse. The point is, we’ve been lied to for decades. Some people can’t understand that. Or don’t want to. Intelligence might not be the right word. Consciousness might be better. Animals also have consciousness, and if we truly recognized that consciousness is equal for all beings, then we would spiritually and ethically grow. I see an opportunity in this issue. These phenomena are not new, but very old.